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Old Today, 10:22 AM
 
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The posts on this thread are what bothers me about people. People will give money for a huge cathedral, but little or nothing to help the poor and needy. Sorry, but people are more important than buildings. The catholic church has the art works to sell and rebuild, but as is typical, they'll drain the money from others.
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Old Today, 10:23 AM
 
Location: Pittsburgh
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The posts on this thread are what bothers me about people. People will give money for a huge cathedral, but little or nothing to help the poor and needy. Sorry, but people are more important than buildings. The catholic church has the art works to sell and rebuild, but as is typical, they'll drain the money from others.
It doesn't have to be either/or. People can support cultural institutions and also give to charities that help people.
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Old Today, 10:39 AM
 
Location: Coastal New Jersey
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The posts on this thread are what bothers me about people. People will give money for a huge cathedral, but little or nothing to help the poor and needy. Sorry, but people are more important than buildings. The catholic church has the art works to sell and rebuild, but as is typical, they'll drain the money from others.
Lots of people give money to the poor and needy, including large amounts from the wealthy. At least in NY and NJ they do. Don't know where you are.

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It doesn't have to be either/or. People can support cultural institutions and also give to charities that help people.
Yes, exactly. It also indirectly helps the poor when people come to a city to see a famous building or cultural institution and spend their money there.
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Old Today, 10:49 AM
 
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The Cathedral of Notre Dame (the building itself) is owned by the government of France, not the Catholic Church. The church has the right to use the cathedral for religious purposes, but the government is responsible for its renovation and restoration (and some argue that the government was negligent in their protection of such a valuable cultural asset.)
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Old Today, 10:51 AM
 
Location: Omaha, Nebraska
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The catholic church has the art works to sell and rebuild, but as is typical, they'll drain the money from others.
Notre Dame isn't owned by the Catholic church. It belongs to the government of France, and I expect they'd appreciate some help with the restoration costs.

The latest news says that all three of the rose windows survived. So did the organ. Even much of the decorative woodwork inside apparently has survived (abet damaged). It's basically just the original wooden/lead tile roof and the central spire (added much later) which have been lost. Things could have been much, much worse.
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Old Today, 11:03 AM
 
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The posts on this thread are what bothers me about people. People will give money for a huge cathedral, but little or nothing to help the poor and needy. Sorry, but people are more important than buildings. ...
The posts on this thread are what bothers me about people. People will give money for a huge cathedral, but little or nothing to help DOGS and CATS. Sorry, but ANIMALS are more important than buildings. ...

See what I did there?
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Old Today, 11:12 AM
 
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The latest news says that all three of the rose windows survived. So did the organ. Even much of the decorative woodwork inside apparently has survived (abet damaged). It's basically just the original wooden/lead tile roof and the central spire (added much later) which have been lost. Things could have been much, much worse.
My tears of sorrow are now tears of joy after hearing this news. And I'm not Catholic. I'm going to be back in Paris next month, and my first stop will be l'Ile de la Cité. It always is. I am eternally grateful that this magnificent structure will be fully restored.
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Old Today, 11:19 AM
 
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It also indirectly helps the poor when people come to a city to see a famous building or cultural institution and spend their money there.
Because poor people tend to be business owners in tourist destinations? Not usually. I guess you could make the case that it can help low-level servers when there are more covers, but it could also be argued that this low-paying, heavy hour workload only perpetuates their situations for a greater period of time.

I think there are more humane solutions to these problems than having them create financial prosperity for their owners.

I can understand the other poster's feeling on this topic but for slightly different reasons, and I briefly mentioned them in an earlier post, but it's simply that our feelings of emotion for historic and beautiful buildings in first-world European countries contrasts with our demonstrations of carelessness for similar works of arts in lesser nations that have, in some cases, been ransacked, bombed, or were otherwise destroyed by certain western nations. We do tend to choose which worldly possessions are worth keeping and which are undeserved of admiration.
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Old Today, 11:22 AM
 
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It seems as though the ceiling vaults, which I believe are stone, protected the interior from much of the fire. The collapse of the spire obviously compromised that protection, though.

I didn't watch the news too closely, though; it was too heartbreaking. Can anyone confirm if I'm right, or correct me if I'm wrong?
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Old Today, 11:24 AM
 
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Have you ever heard of Dresden? (hint...Germany). Rebuilding can’t restore what was lost.
Sure, lived in Germany for 4 years.

They rebuilt the Dresden Frauenkirche pretty well from original plans and pictures, reusing a lot of the rubble.
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