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Old Yesterday, 01:15 PM
 
Location: Round Rock, Texas
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What a terrible tragedy for France and the world.
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Old Yesterday, 01:16 PM
 
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Heartbreaking. Absolutely awful. No words.
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Old Yesterday, 01:17 PM
 
Location: Colorado
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"People on other boards" are always right, aren't they? WAGs and assumptions foster hate.

I'll wait for the investigation results myself. You bet there will be one even if only to make an insurance company happy!
Agreed. At this point, it's too soon to say for certain what happened.
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Old Yesterday, 01:24 PM
 
Location: New Jersey
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I read the fire started at 6 pm Paris time, so it probably was not related to construction or workers.
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Old Yesterday, 01:25 PM
 
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Saw where the French President arrived on scene.. Which struck me as odd.. Wouldn't it be smarter to stay the hell out of the way and let.. You know.. Professional firefighters do their job?
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Old Yesterday, 01:26 PM
 
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Sad, saw the exterior in 2005
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Old Yesterday, 01:30 PM
 
Location: Colorado
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Watching on CNN. They're saying one of the challenges is that the stone building is acting as an oven.
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Old Yesterday, 01:36 PM
 
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Watching on CNN. They're saying one of the challenges is that the stone building is acting as an oven.
Wow, that's horrific!
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Old Yesterday, 01:47 PM
 
Location: East of the Sun, West of the Moon
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As one of the most recognizable symbols of the West and a crowning acheivement of medieval European architecture, this is truly a tragedy, and not just for Westerners. Hopefully it can be saved, at least in part. For what its worth, the spire that collapsed was a 19th century reconstruction of the original from the late 13th century. Regardless, the cathedral would still have immense cultural value even as a ruin.

As for the cause being arson (whatever the motive, terrorism or not), it is plausible, but to make definitive statements at this time is pure nonsense. Hopefully a full, transparent investigation as to the cause, accidental or intentional, will be made.

Even more plausible, however, is that it was an accident. Europe is full of buildings that have succumbed to fires that were entirely accidental.

My condolences to everyone affected.
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Old Yesterday, 01:47 PM
 
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It's also the absolute wrong timing for a terrorist act too- the fire took hold in the about an hour or so between when the cathedral shut down for general tourism and when it reopened for evening vesper service so only staff were present in the building at the time. A proper terrorist would have picked late morning or early afternoon when there could have been thousands killed in the chaos.
I realize someone mentioned the fire started at 6PM, but things like this have happened a bunch of times, while older buildings are being renovated, obviously not as famous as Notre Dame. If there weren't renovations going on, especially to/near the roof and spire, then maybe I can think of nefarious scenarios, but construction accidents can and do happen a lot.
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