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Old 04-21-2019, 11:19 AM
 
Location: southern kansas
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That has already been covered. He gave an explanation for that. You just don't want to hear it.



Family Stands Behind SC Father Who Left Daughter in Burning Car _ wfmynews2.com[
Whether he knew the car was on fire, or not, when he ran really only matters when it comes to charges filed and severity of his crime. On a moral basis he's responsible for the child's death because he created the situation that killed her. You can spin it any way you want, but in the end he cared more for his freedom than he did for his daughters safety & well-being. Otherwise she would still be alive today.
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Old 04-21-2019, 11:22 AM
 
Location: Oregon Coast
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Drug laws are unconstitutional actually.


Historically, we celebrate and honor people who REFUSE TO COMPLY or DISOBEY 'unconstitutional' laws, Law enforcement 'just doing their jobs' enforcing unconstitutional laws, has never been acceptable or tolerated.
Exactly, for thoses not up on the Constitution. Unfortunately, it has become acceptable and tolerated by many in the last 50 years. No free person minding their own business, traveling from one point to another, should ever have to put up with being impeded by a government thug and having their property searched without a warrant in violation of the Constitution. Especially for something as stupid, as looking for drugs. The right to travel freely is one of the most basic human rights, and unfortunately we have totally lost that right.

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The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.
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Old 04-21-2019, 11:27 AM
 
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He was speeding...he was speeding...

The cop had no idea he had drugs in the car until after the fact.

Driving is a privilege, not a right, he was speeding, the cop attempted to stop him for doing so, and he fled.

Your ridiculous argument about the constitution and drugs, is not even relevant.
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Old 04-21-2019, 11:55 AM
 
Location: Oregon Coast
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He was speeding...he was speeding...

The cop had no idea he had drugs in the car until after the fact.

Driving is a privilege, not a right, he was speeding, the cop attempted to stop him for doing so, and he fled.

Your ridiculous argument about the constitution and drugs, is not even relevant.
The man was minding his own business driving with his daughter from one point to another. Why do you people feel compelled to tell other people what speed they can drive and what items they can have in their cars? It doesn't affect you. Just let them travel freely. Let other people live their lives as they see fit. And don't tell me it's about safety. The entire situation becomes unsafe when you send these dangerous armed government agents out to try to stop people from doing things you don't like, then the person gets scared, and starts running. Then you have a really dangerous situation, which usually results in car crashes or gun fire, and often results in injury or death to innocent third parties. You are not keeping society safe with this nonsense. You are just creating a dangerous situation for everyone. If the cop had not attempted to stop this man that night, he would have gotten to his destination, and that child would be alive today.
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Old 04-21-2019, 12:00 PM
 
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The man was minding his own business driving with his daughter from one point to another. Why do you people feel compelled to tell other people what speed they can drive and what items they can have in their cars? It doesn't affect you. Just let them travel freely. Let other people live their lives as they see fit. And don't tell me it's about safety. The entire situation becomes unsafe when you send these dangerous armed government agents out to try to stop people from doing things you don't like, then the person gets scared, and starts running. Then you have a really dangerous situation, which usually results in car crashes or gun fire, and often results in injury or death to innocent third parties. You are not keeping society safe with this nonsense. You are just creating a dangerous situation for everyone. If the cop had not attempted to stop this man that night, he would have gotten to his destination, and that child would be alive today.
Again, he was speeding, the speed limit was posted. If he disagrees with the speed limit, there is a process in place to get this changed. But again, he was speeding, the cop's job is to pull over and cite people speeding.

Driving is a privilege, not a right.

His speeding puts in danger others, he has no right to put others at risk, the ole "your freedom to throw a punch ends at my nose" argument.

Your "sovereign citizen" argument is ridiculous.

Fact is, you are racist and believe all black people should not be held accountable for breaking the law.
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Old 04-21-2019, 12:15 PM
 
Location: SWFL
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The man was minding his own business driving with his daughter from one point to another. Why do you people feel compelled to tell other people what speed they can drive and what items they can have in their cars? It doesn't affect you. Just let them travel freely. Let other people live their lives as they see fit. And don't tell me it's about safety. The entire situation becomes unsafe when you send these dangerous armed government agents out to try to stop people from doing things you don't like, then the person gets scared, and starts running. Then you have a really dangerous situation, which usually results in car crashes or gun fire, and often results in injury or death to innocent third parties. You are not keeping society safe with this nonsense. You are just creating a dangerous situation for everyone. If the cop had not attempted to stop this man that night, he would have gotten to his destination, and that child would be alive today.
Cuckoo-cuckoo.
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Old 04-21-2019, 12:19 PM
 
Location: Oregon Coast
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Again, he was speeding, the speed limit was posted. If he disagrees with the speed limit, there is a process in place to get this changed. But again, he was speeding, the cop's job is to pull over and cite people speeding.

Driving is a privilege, not a right.

His speeding puts in danger others, he has no right to put others at risk, the ole "your freedom to throw a punch ends at my nose" argument.

Your "sovereign citizen" argument is ridiculous.

Fact is, you are racist and believe all black people should not be held accountable for breaking the law.
First off, you don't know what a "sovereign citizen" is. I am not one and I don't support them. Second, you don't know what the word "racist" means. I suggest you study both subjects.

Finally your analogy about the punch is also faulty. Telling you to mind your own business and let other people live their lives, is not a punch in your face. It's about respecting other people's rights. Including their rights to travel freely and not have their property search without a warrent.
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Old 04-21-2019, 01:05 PM
 
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There are interesting posters in this thread. God help us.
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Old 04-21-2019, 01:17 PM
 
Location: Mid-Atlantic
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First off, you don't know what a "sovereign citizen" is. I am not one and I don't support them. Second, you don't know what the word "racist" means. I suggest you study both subjects.

Finally your analogy about the punch is also faulty. Telling you to mind your own business and let other people live their lives, is not a punch in your face. It's about respecting other people's rights. Including their rights to travel freely and not have their property search without a warrent.
He didn't have the right to drive 22 mph over the posted speed limit.
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Old 04-22-2019, 11:26 AM
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Location: MA/NH
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The family is trying to get the dashcam video. If they secede, we will get answers. it doesn't look like the cops are going to give it up voluntarily.
Wow. So now the cops are to blame for the child's death? It's clearly solely the fault of the father... and where was the mother at during this situation?
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