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Old 08-21-2019, 06:03 PM
 
Location: Frisco, TX
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What?! I thought MBS fixed Saudi Arabia after he gave women the right to drive a motor vehicle!
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Old 08-21-2019, 06:05 PM
 
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Certainly and I agree. My point was that those US workers in Saudi Arabia don't leave the compounds.
I understand. My point was only that there are too many people there to be personally interviewing everyone. People were assuming she was doing something wrong. My point was to those posters who want to say “serves her right” for some apparent misbehavior they are sure she must have committed to one who stated her husband “failed her” by not teaching her how to behave. There is nothing to indicate she said, wore or did one single thing that was thought to be disrespectful to Saudi culture. “Too westernized” was simply the argument ex and lawyer used to win custody. Just like here spouses and their lawyers use whatever they can to win custody. It is not a case where the courts dragged her in for acting too western.

She’d have lost a custody battle for a male child no matter what when fighting a male who is a Saudi citizen.
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Old 08-21-2019, 06:06 PM
 
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What?! I thought MBS fixed Saudi Arabia after he gave women the right to drive a motor vehicle!
Moms lose custody battles sometimes here too.
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Old 08-21-2019, 09:43 PM
 
Location: Outside US
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Yes, well, but putting it into perspective, the Middle-eastern countries may be 500 years behind us culturally, but as a country, the US is also a couple hundred years behind western Europe. To western Europeans, we live like savages here, still shooting people, still fighting about religion and being uptight about sex and nudity, and still not having socialized medical care, family leave, or vacation time from work.
Comparing Westerin Europe to the US is OK. I prefer Western Europe.

The topic is KSA.

They never had an enlightenment. Never will.

A reformation is not possible.

They have contributed basically "0" to humanity - pun intended.
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Old 08-21-2019, 11:59 PM
 
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Hmm, Western Europe, you say?
Read this story and tell me how Sweden is different from Saudi Arabia? (hint: zero difference, or even worse)

https://southfront.org/russian-man-f...nother-family/

In the same story it is also described similar case for Norway, citing: "Norwegian authorities are attempting to take his children away and provide them to a foster family, since the environment in Bulgaria is not “Norwegian enough” and the children will not develop to their presumed full potential."

Word-for-word with topic situation. Don't you find it amusing? Or is it "completely different thing" (c) ?
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Old 08-22-2019, 01:12 AM
 
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The USA woman is an idiot.
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Old 08-22-2019, 08:51 PM
 
Location: Upstate NY 🇺🇸
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Where's one-time big mouth, WA Sen. Patty Murray? Or doesn't she walk the talk?
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Old 08-22-2019, 10:44 PM
 
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Where's one-time big mouth, WA Sen. Patty Murray? Or doesn't she walk the talk?
Why on earth would a senator get involved in a custody dispute between a divorcing couple?
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Old 08-23-2019, 09:36 AM
 
Location: Coastal New Jersey
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The movie is a dramatization. The book is much better and details a lot more abuse than was shown in the movie. In the book, the woman knows that if she is found with an IUD, she can be legally killed, so she removes it herself. Her husband had her passport and a woman couldn't get a flight out without his permission. She was trapped. And what was so bad about the whole situation was that the husband had been in America for a number of years and was an American doctor (he was fired shortly before they left for the Iran visit). He made a complete flip to an extreme Islam fanatic once they were back in Iran.

I may be xenophobic myself, but I have a list of countries I will never visit and Middle-eastern countries are high on the list. I see what they do to their own women and I'm under no illusion that being an American there will protect me in any way.
Yes, that was the scary part. He seemed very Americanized when she married him in the USA, but when he went home, he got caught up in the Islamic fundamentalism that had overtaken his country in his absence.
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Old 08-27-2019, 08:15 PM
 
Location: New York Area
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Hmm, Western Europe, you say?
Read this story and tell me how Sweden is different from Saudi Arabia? (hint: zero difference, or even worse)

https://southfront.org/russian-man-f...nother-family/

In the same story it is also described similar case for Norway, citing: "Norwegian authorities are attempting to take his children away and provide them to a foster family, since the environment in Bulgaria is not “Norwegian enough” and the children will not develop to their presumed full potential."

Word-for-word with topic situation. Don't you find it amusing? Or is it "completely different thing" (c) ?
Is your view always "West bad, everyone else good"? I have just finished reading your almost unique views on Stalin.
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