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Old 08-21-2019, 04:31 PM
 
Location: Southwest Washington State
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I drank fluoridated water in all three of my pregnancies. My kids are smart adults.

I don't know. There is naturally fluoridated drinking water and I would wonder if an IQ study has been done on those populations which have drunk it for decades.
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Old 08-25-2019, 02:59 AM
 
Location: Cebu, Philippines
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They must not have fluoridated water in Japan or Korea, where IQs have not been lowered ten points to US levels. And we all know that no race is superior to another, so it must be something like that causing it.
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Old 09-06-2019, 07:54 PM
 
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The study found even in cities that had fluoridated water, women got most of their fluoride from other sources, such as food, tea and toothpaste, "so I think it's a mistake to focus too much on the water fluoridation piece here."
https://www.npr.org/sections/health-...s-intelligence

Fluoride fear mongering fail.
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Old 09-06-2019, 08:00 PM
 
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It actually confirms that fluoride during pregnancy lowers IQ. It just states people get it more from other places than from water. But if I were pregnant I wouldn’t take that to mean consuming lots of fluoridated water is fine, it still concludes in the end that pregnant women should limit intake of fluoride. Certainly that would include fluoridated water even if it’s not the main source of fluoride.
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Old 09-06-2019, 08:04 PM
 
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I drank fluoridated water in all three of my pregnancies. My kids are smart adults.

I don't know. There is naturally fluoridated drinking water and I would wonder if an IQ study has been done on those populations which have drunk it for decades.
It didn’t state it lowered them significantly just a few points. So instead of 125 maybe their IQ would be 130 without fluoride. 125 is still high. The article states it matters more at the lower end as it would put perhaps millions of kids who might have been borderline into the intellectually disabled range. That makes a big difference when it comes to school budgets, disability, etc.
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Old 09-06-2019, 11:25 PM
 
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It actually confirms that fluoride during pregnancy lowers IQ. It just states people get it more from other places than from water. But if I were pregnant I wouldn’t take that to mean consuming lots of fluoridated water is fine, it still concludes in the end that pregnant women should limit intake of fluoride. Certainly that would include fluoridated water even if it’s not the main source of fluoride.
No - because too many variables were not taken into account. No one knows how much fluoride any of these women really got. Just because the water isn't fluoridated does mean they are not getting fluoride from other sources.
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Old 09-07-2019, 10:54 AM
 
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No - because too many variables were not taken into account. No one knows how much fluoride any of these women really got. Just because the water isn't fluoridated does mean they are not getting fluoride from other sources.
If you re-read my post, I acknowledged more than once that the article stated more of it was coming from other sources than water. But regardless the conclusion is still the same, that high fluoride levels in pregnant women results in lower IQ babies. Therefore fluoride should be avoided from as many sources as possible if you’re pregnant, including water. I’m not really sure what you’re arguing.
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Old 09-07-2019, 04:23 PM
 
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"Effects of drinking water fluorosis on L-type calcium channel of hippocampal neurons in mice."
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/30583209/
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Old 09-07-2019, 05:47 PM
 
Location: Southwest Washington State
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It didn’t state it lowered them significantly just a few points. So instead of 125 maybe their IQ would be 130 without fluoride. 125 is still high. The article states it matters more at the lower end as it would put perhaps millions of kids who might have been borderline into the intellectually disabled range. That makes a big difference when it comes to school budgets, disability, etc.
This is one study. Fluoridated water occurs naturally and I would like to see a study of people who have drunk naturally occurring fluoridated water in their communities for generations. Frankly I don’t believe this. If it shows up in other studies in other locales, then I’ll believe it.

How could you even measure “lower IQ” if it were only a few points lower? Makes no sense.
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Old 09-07-2019, 06:17 PM
 
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Fluoride ions bind to calcium (the latter which neural pathways use); that's why it's deleterious to brain function. People who ingest lead and mercury naturally don't do all that great either.

Fluoride ions binding to calcium is the whole idea behind tooth enamel remineralization--which is a topical application. You're not supposed to eat it. (Nobody should be eating antibacterial skin wound ointments either.)

And nobody swishes water around their teeth when they drink.
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