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Old 08-22-2019, 08:45 PM
 
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In a mass shooting situation, you expect kids to be emotionless robots?
You're being ridiculous now. I never even hinted at that. What?!
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Old 08-22-2019, 10:30 PM
 
Location: Cebu, Philippines
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Quite a few = too many to mention. Here are examples from Columbine High School to recent incidents. Lot's of information coming directly from students, and also being relayed by parents.

How many potential school shootings have actually been thwarted by students using their phones, which wouldn't have been prevented in any other way?

Other than impending massacres, do you have any other examples of students making emergency calls, which are too numerous to mention?
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Old 08-22-2019, 10:42 PM
 
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I guess you missed this part.



If I had kids, I would want to be able to get in touch with them in an emergency situation.
Again though you could be risking their lives making their phone go off if theyíre trying to hide.
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Old 08-23-2019, 05:11 AM
 
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You're being ridiculous now. I never even hinted at that. What?!
Iím the one being ridiculous?! Thanks for the laugh!!!
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Old 08-23-2019, 05:43 AM
 
Location: Cebu, Philippines
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I'm still waiting for a description of all of these emergencies that parents and their children need to discuss on the phone during school hours.


Or did I miss the part where it was agreed that terrorist massacres are the only arguments in favor of arming every child with a defensive phone?


Here: A mic in every room, that is turned on by the sound of a gunshot, which transmits the sounds in the room, alerts authorities of which room it is, and phones everybody's mother.

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Old 08-23-2019, 06:30 AM
 
Location: Plainfield NJ
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Im all for phones for kids in case there are emergencies, because there are no pay phones. Im all for phones for kids because there are so few house phones anymore. Cell phones have replaced house phones and pay phones. But i nor anyone i know ever needed access to a phone during the school day, except if we were sick/forgot our lunch/needed something from home in which case, the nurse or office people would provide a phone to use. Phones during classtime is disruptive, provides another avenue to talk negatively about classmates in class and interferes with learning. Im all for this
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Old 08-23-2019, 07:27 AM
 
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I believe the negatives of students keeping cellphones with them far outweigh potential benefits. It is statistically unlikely that any student would ever be saved in a school shooting due to having a cell phone, and as others have said, if a student's phone rings while s/he is hiding, it would merely give away the hiding spot.

I'm concerned about the far more common problems of distraction, cheating, and cell phone addiction.

Throughout my career in medical labs, employees were not able to have cell phones (or any other personal items whatsoever) in the laboratory or in their pockets (due to possible contamination by blood and body fluids) and somehow we all managed.
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Old 08-23-2019, 08:15 AM
 
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I believe the negatives of students keeping cellphones with them far outweigh potential benefits. It is statistically unlikely that any student would ever be saved in a school shooting due to having a cell phone, and as others have said, if a student's phone rings while s/he is hiding, it would merely give away the hiding spot.

I'm concerned about the far more common problems of distraction, cheating, and cell phone addiction.

Throughout my career in medical labs, employees were not able to have cell phones (or any other personal items whatsoever) in the laboratory or in their pockets (due to possible contamination by blood and body fluids) and somehow we all managed.
Excellent points, all of them.
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Old 08-23-2019, 10:18 AM
 
Location: Oregon Coast
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Again though you could be risking their lives making their phone go off if theyíre trying to hide.
Then they can turn off their ringtone. You don't throw the baby out with the bathwater.
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Old 08-23-2019, 10:34 AM
 
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Then they can turn off their ringtone. You don't throw the baby out with the bathwater.
If itís in their backpack or purse they might not be able to get to it. These are instant jump under a desk and try not to even breathe loud moments, they donít have time to get situated. And that warning about giving away position came from a law enforcement expert not I.
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