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Old Today, 07:22 AM
 
Location: DMV Area/NYC/Honolulu
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That's a myth. And most re-arrests are for probation violations, not sex offenses.




https://webcache.googleusercontent.c...&ct=clnk&gl=us
A recidivism rate of nearly 70%--while lower than for other serious crimes--is still high. Let's not try to make it seem that its not.
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Old Today, 07:24 AM
 
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It's actually quite clear. IF there is any doubt - don't have sex.

I've been under the influence of everything under the sun. At no time did I molest an unconscious stranger.
Yep. Not to mention, Turner changed his story multiple times, so I really don't believe a word he says. https://www.theguardian.com/society/...estimony-laugh
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Old Today, 07:34 AM
 
Location: Florida
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It is, indeed, quite a feat to tell a story you can't recall.
Actually, she can tell what happened to her prior to her blackout and the aftermath. This could help other possible rape victims realize the signs that they could have been assaulted, and how to get the strength to overcome it.
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Old Today, 07:50 AM
 
Location: Florida
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That's your opinion, not fact.

I've never been in this situation.



I honestly don't consider it not too difficult as a guy to not be in this situation.
I have been in a near similar situation. I was drinking at a party, and then vaguely remember getting real tired and passing out somewhere, and then woken up to a fight that broke out. Later on, I found out the bartender had drugged my drink for a pal, and I was carried to a spare bedroom, but thank God my friends were looking out for me and beat the hell out of the dude and got us all out of there. I wonder if something similar happened to this girl, but she just didn't have good friends looking out for her.
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Old Today, 07:55 AM
 
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Chanel Miller has written a book. I very much look forward to reading it.

https://people.com/crime/woman-sexua...chanel-miller/
She is going to set herself up for criticism about the timing of releasing her name in conjunction with the sale of her book...
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Old Today, 08:31 AM
 
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I have been in a near similar situation. I was drinking at a party, and then vaguely remember getting real tired and passing out somewhere, and then woken up to a fight that broke out. Later on, I found out the bartender had drugged my drink for a pal, and I was carried to a spare bedroom, but thank God my friends were looking out for me and beat the hell out of the dude and got us all out of there. I wonder if something similar happened to this girl, but she just didn't have good friends looking out for her.
She was tested for drugs, and her impairment was caused by a very high level of alcohol, but not as high as Turner's. No other drugs.
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Old Today, 08:53 AM
 
Location: Central IL
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You're completely wrong.

His life has been completely ruined, and if he were to commit suicide at this point, it would be understandable.

He is now, in a situation that is worse than what used to be a leper colony. LITERALLY.

Google registering as a sex offender for life. For LIFE. This man is young, and he may live to be 85 as a complete recluse.

He will never be able to participate in society, ever, EVER, again. He can't be around children, even his family members. If he has siblings who have children, he can't be there for Thanksgiving of Christmas, if children are present.

He can't marry and produce children. He can't rent a place where children reside, like an apartment complex. He will have to register where he is living, for life, as a sex offender, and anyone in the neighborhood will be made aware of his presence, by a knock on the door by Law Enforcement.

He will have to darken his home on Halloween, so children won't ring his doorbell that night, and he can expect a law officer to visit him on halloween to ensure he's not handing out candy.

I think it might change your perspective on this case. Sincerely. Google what this will mean to him, and imagine living like that.

Even murderers don't live like he will have to live.

What you don't know, you don't know, Renee. Live as a registered sex offender is HELL.
Oh my goodness! Please don't have a stroke over this little punk! I'm sure he can find a woman to marry - men IN PRISON find women who'll marry them! I mean, if he was your age YOU just might since you sympathize and believe him so there are lots of others out there - correct? <shrug>
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Old Today, 08:57 AM
 
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She was tested for drugs, and her impairment was caused by a very high level of alcohol, but not as high as Turner's. No other drugs.
She was tested during the rape kit/hospital examination, hours after the fact. Doctors estimate that her blood alcohol level was much higher than recorded when the sexual assault took place.
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Old Today, 09:14 AM
 
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She was tested for drugs, and her impairment was caused by a very high level of alcohol, but not as high as Turner's. No other drugs.
So alcohol canít be used to turn someone into a vulnerable victim???
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Old Today, 09:18 AM
 
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A recidivism rate of nearly 70%--while lower than for other serious crimes--is still high. Let's not try to make it seem that its not.
Not just lower - far lower. But the myth is that it's higher. It would be even lower if it wasn't for the severe restictions that the registry imposes that often don't make sense. Most rearrests are for registry violations, not sex crimes. I don;t see a nationwide study but here's one from PA:

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FAILURE-TO-COMPLY ARRESTS REVEAL FLAWS IN SEX OFFENDER REGISTRIES

In one Pennsylvania county, more than three times as many people on the registry were charged in 2016 with failing to follow registry requirements than were charged with a new sexual offense
https://theappeal.org/skyrocketing-c...l-their-flaws/
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