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Old 09-19-2019, 10:58 AM
 
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Mandating video seminars as a requirement for entering the park would eliminate this.
And hopefully cut back on tourists, Yellowstone could use a break from people.
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Old 09-19-2019, 11:50 AM
 
Location: on the wind
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Mandating video seminars as a requirement for entering the park would eliminate this.
And hopefully cut back on tourists, Yellowstone could use a break from people.
Eliminate it? Where is the howling with ROFLMAO emoji when you need it? The parks I've worked at/visited over the years that have significant hazards or sensitive areas to warn people about all have video orientations that are either mandatory before entering the sites or they are on continuous loops in the entrance stations. The information is also presented on signs, presentation posters, interactive displays, websites (for those who bother to do some research before they arrive), copious free leaflets, oral presentations, as well as roving rangers giving talks and information onsite. Some visitors pay attention. Many do not. Most watch/listen dutifully, but an hour later couldn't regurgitate any of the information if it wasn't what they wanted to hear.

No video is going to deter jerks like this. Even if you tied them to chairs, deprived them of their Starbucks and their phones until they could recite the messages verbatim. They do stuff like this IN SPITE of being informed.

As for reducing tourists, why do you think these places survive? Because people demand that they do. If every Tom, Dick and Harry who want to can't visit them there's no incentive to fund them. Congress would cut their financial throats in favor of more lucrative pork barrel projects pretty darn quick if they didn't pay for themselves (not just in visitor dollars...park entrance fees are drops in the bucket. Parks do pay their way in terms of political clout, local economies, and big business influence).

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Old 09-19-2019, 12:03 PM
 
Location: Åsgårdsreien
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Mandating video seminars as a requirement for entering the park would eliminate this.
If you think the problem is simply a lack of information, then you clearly don't understand people. Do you think that the only people who speed are the ones who just haven't had the dangers explained to them?

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And hopefully cut back on tourists, Yellowstone could use a break from people.
And then those tourists, the ones that want to see the northern Rockies, would go to the Tetons or Glacier or the Bob Marshall Wilderness or someplace like that. And shuffling around which mountains the tourists see solves what, precisely?

See, these stories always seem to bring out the sorts of people who think the problem in question MUST BE SOLVED! And that's magical thinking. You're never going to have a safe wilderness park. That's a pipe dream. Reasonable safety measures are implemented. There are warning signs - and, no, the fact that half a dozen idiots out of 4+ million annual visitors make the news does not mean that the signs do not change behavior. There are railings/ropes in some high-traffic dangerous areas. The goal is to strike a balance between what is possible and what is ideal.

Some small number of people are going to get hurt. That's a fact.

Some small number of people are going to break the rules. That's a fact.

Stop trying to throw the baby out with the bathwater because you can't make a perfect park where everyone does everything they're supposed to do and nothing they're not supposed to do.
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Old 09-19-2019, 02:46 PM
 
Location: southern kansas
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Mandating video seminars as a requirement for entering the park would eliminate this.
And hopefully cut back on tourists, Yellowstone could use a break from people.
Ummm... no. You are way too optimistic about people's ability (and desire) to learn from others mistakes, much less a government video. There is a reason that idiots like this are called Darwin Award winners. The sadness of a loss of life aside, they are at least providing others with an good example of what not to do.
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Old 09-19-2019, 03:20 PM
 
Location: Northern Minnesota
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2x3x29x41 - Excellent post (#53)
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Old 09-19-2019, 03:23 PM
 
Location: SW Florida
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There have been many fatal incidents at Yellowstone which involved people stepping or falling into a spring. I am not sure why you have trouble accepting this. Even a man who was pulled out of a spring alive, ultimately died. He had jumped in to rescue a dog that had fallen into a pool.

If I remember, some springs are hotter than others. And they have different chemical compositions. If you have ever visited Yellowstone, you should remember the pervasive sulphur odor that hangs over the areas where the springs and geysers are.

A particularly disgusting way to die would be to fall into one of the sputtering mud springs that are there.
Did the dog survive?
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Old 09-19-2019, 03:28 PM
 
Location: SW Florida
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Hmm, interesting and probably very effective way to get rid of a dead body....



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Old 09-19-2019, 05:25 PM
 
Location: Southwest Washington State
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The great thing about Yellowstone - and almost all national parks - is that solitude and wilderness exist in abundance.

Among our other adventures in Yellowstone, my son and I went on an eight-mile point-to-point backcountry hike (the Rescue Creek Trail, for those interested), mostly downhill, following a trail that saw so little use it faded away until it could barely be discerned for parts of the route (we had a USGS topo map). We saw only one other party (and a number of bison and two young brown bears) on that trail that day. It was glorious.
Well, your experience sounds wonderful!
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Old 09-19-2019, 05:28 PM
 
Location: Southwest Washington State
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Did the dog survive?
Are you serious?
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Old 09-19-2019, 05:31 PM
 
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We saw people chasing bison and ignoring the no dogs rule. Dogs make the wildlife angry. We left ours in the RV or took them in our car with us. We didn’t walk them except in the campgrounds. They have huge signs up everywhere with warnings.
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