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Old 04-22-2021, 10:59 AM
 
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Ive said this before many times...we need to figure out WHY people are having these attractions to kids in the first place, is it something they acquire, are they born this way, something else?
A lot of them were abused themselves. I do think there is a compulsion to abuse as well though in pedophiles.
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Old 04-22-2021, 11:00 AM
 
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One of the main arguments against remote learning seems to be that child abuse would go unreported. But when the school itself is the source of the abuse, it would be the other way around. A parent who doesn't abuse their child sends him/her to school expecting the child to be safe, but then the unfortunate child ends up suffering abuse at the hands of the PRINCIPAL.

Fortunately, this type of incident seems much less common. But there is no 100% safe. Any adult trusted with a child's care could, possibly, be an abuser.

One can only hope that the system is improved in the future so that counselors can report ALL abuse regardless of if the perpetrator is a parent or a teacher or a principal, without fear of professional repercussions. I can only wonder if greater whistleblower protections might have stopped this principal earlier on.
Counselors can already report crimes without fear of repercussion. I’m very sure that if a counselor knew this would happen they would’ve told someone. The vast majority of abused children never tell anyone.
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Old 04-22-2021, 11:16 AM
 
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This is an article about a program in Germany designed to help pedophiles before they offend:

https://www.theguardian.com/society/...P=share_btn_tw

Here is a link to the actual program in Germany that offers these services: https://troubled-desire.com/en/about.html

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It is important to ensure that these offences never occur and to help affected persons prevent urges from becoming problematic sexual behaviour. There are strategies to improve the symptoms associated with distress and ways to integrate sexual interests without acting them out.

This understanding is the reason the German government has integrated preventive help for those with paedophilic inclinations into the healthcare system. Every individual in Germany is entitled to preventive treatment without financial cost or revealing his or her identity.
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Old 04-23-2021, 08:39 PM
 
Location: Townsville
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This is an article about a program in Germany designed to help pedophiles before they offend:

https://www.theguardian.com/society/...P=share_btn_tw

Here is a link to the actual program in Germany that offers these services: https://troubled-desire.com/en/about.html

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It is important to ensure that these offences never occur and to help affected persons prevent urges from becoming problematic sexual behaviour. There are strategies to improve the symptoms associated with distress and ways to integrate sexual interests without acting them out.

This understanding is the reason the German government has integrated preventive help for those with paedophilic inclinations into the healthcare system. Every individual in Germany is entitled to preventive treatment without financial cost or revealing his or her identity.
Most interesting. This is the final quote in the Guardian article:

Anne, now in her mid-20's, was abused by her policeman stepfather and later discovered the man she was in a relationship with had a pedophilic disorder. She assists relatives and friends of pedophiles by helping them to access therapy.

"If people search for help but can't get it, then there's something wrong with us as a society," she said. "You just have to think of the many children who, I've no doubt, are saved because this therapy exists. It also prevents these men, as well as the mothers and wives who so often protect them, from hiding from themselves any more."


How come we in our respective countries don't have such a sensible approach to this issue?
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Old 04-23-2021, 09:34 PM
 
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Most interesting. This is the final quote in the Guardian article:

Anne, now in her mid-20's, was abused by her policeman stepfather and later discovered the man she was in a relationship with had a pedophilic disorder. She assists relatives and friends of pedophiles by helping them to access therapy.

"If people search for help but can't get it, then there's something wrong with us as a society," she said. "You just have to think of the many children who, I've no doubt, are saved because this therapy exists. It also prevents these men, as well as the mothers and wives who so often protect them, from hiding from themselves any more."


How come we in our respective countries don't have such a sensible approach to this issue?

I think America is less trusting of the government. Anyone who signs up as having pedo desires will probably be watched 24/7 by law enforcement and perhaps set up.
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Old 04-23-2021, 10:05 PM
 
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I just wonder, what feature of democracy prevents punishing serial pedofiles with chemical castration?
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Old 04-24-2021, 10:02 AM
 
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I think America is less trusting of the government. Anyone who signs up as having pedo desires will probably be watched 24/7 by law enforcement and perhaps set up.
Yes, its very similar to the old witch trials of the past...even an accusation is enough to convince many people!
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Old 04-25-2021, 08:46 AM
 
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What kills me is you don’t see any saying that this man should be castrated instead we send him to prison and give him three meals a day and a bed.
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Old 04-25-2021, 12:15 PM
 
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This is an article about a program in Germany designed to help pedophiles before they offend:

https://www.theguardian.com/society/...P=share_btn_tw

Here is a link to the actual program in Germany that offers these services: https://troubled-desire.com/en/about.html
That's awesome! I wonder what kind of results they are getting?
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Old 04-25-2021, 06:49 PM
 
Location: Metro Phoenix
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"Had sex with boys aged 8-12"

This is not sex, this is rape
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