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Old 06-19-2010, 04:04 PM
 
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I hear you. We have broadened our search with new interest in exactly what you mentioned--I consider 50's and 60's pier and beam homes to be real houses. Large rooms and stylish exteriors; more room between houses and attractive sloped roofs. These new homes in Frisco have ridiculous roof pitches. The more I look at new homes in Frisco, the more they look like monster patio homes. (But they have granite counter tops! Never mind the fact they crack, too.). I'm also learning Grand is/was a crummy builder. I wish realtors were bound to tell the truth, nothing but the truth. That would help buyers more than anything.
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Old 06-19-2010, 07:30 PM
 
Location: Austin
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I wish realtors were bound to tell the truth, nothing but the truth. That would help buyers more than anything.
Would you care to elaborate on this statement? You're throwing a lot of words into one sentence that could get really heated.

If you're wanting a Realtor to "talk bad" about one builder over another, that is against the Code of Ethics to some extent. The code of ethics prevents Realtors from this bad talking, and many builders are also licensed so they fall into this category. And just because a handful of home owners want to complain about a builder, that would mean EVERY single builder in EVERY single market across the country would deserve to be talked bad about because no builder is perfect and there are always going to be people who complain.

For Realtors, "truth" means "material facts" about the property. Other than that, it's up to a buyer to do their own due diligence and not blame others for their bad mistakes.
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Old 06-19-2010, 10:26 PM
 
Location: Collin County
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Review the JD Powers reports for Dallas Builders...you can google it yourself!
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Old 06-19-2010, 10:39 PM
 
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mid century homes are the hottest style going now
and more expensive per sq ft than almost any other type
so that is not the easy way out for most people
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Old 06-20-2010, 09:45 AM
 
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You could also forget Frisco and go with a nice mid-century pier and beam.
Which is exactly what I had before I tore it down. A mid-century modern built in 1964. With 5' deep piers that shifted all the time. The floor was like a fun-house.

Bedrock is at 12'. If they had just drilled 7 more feet down to rock, that house would still stand...
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Old 06-20-2010, 09:48 AM
 
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mid century homes are the hottest style going now
and more expensive per sq ft than almost any other type
so that is not the easy way out for most people
There was one for sale a month ago on Fernald and Valley Springs in Lake Highlands for an incredible $120k in a super-nice neighborhood...........

Probably had the similar crappy pier and beam foundation as mine.
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Old 06-20-2010, 10:15 AM
 
Location: North Texas
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Which is exactly what I had before I tore it down. A mid-century modern built in 1964. With 5' deep piers that shifted all the time. The floor was like a fun-house.

Bedrock is at 12'. If they had just drilled 7 more feet down to rock, that house would still stand...
What a bummer. Pier and beam is still a more appropriate foundation for this area than a slab; in general they have fewer (and cheaper) problems.
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Old 06-20-2010, 11:18 AM
 
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That seems to be the general consensus--pier and beam = fewer foundation issues (and less costly).

I can elaborate on my earlier comment: I didn't know realtors had a code of ethics. An experience with 2-3 very deceptive realtors is all it takes to have my opinion. Sellers must disclose the truth about a house. What I don't understand is why a buyer's realtor is exempt from this requirement. They spot poison pills right away in a house and neighborhood yet keep mum. You mean my realtor won't tell me because of "ethics" that the builder is crummy? Are you kidding? Or certain house features are not desirable in Dallas? My realtor will let me buy the house knowing I'm making a costly mistake? It's obvious now why realtors like out-of-towners. We're not educated about the local market and make mistakes that could have been avoided had the realtor been honest.
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Old 06-20-2010, 01:01 PM
 
Location: DFW - Coppell / Las Colinas
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That seems to be the general consensus--pier and beam = fewer foundation issues (and less costly).

I can elaborate on my earlier comment: I didn't know realtors had a code of ethics. An experience with 2-3 very deceptive realtors is all it takes to have my opinion. Sellers must disclose the truth about a house. What I don't understand is why a buyer's realtor is exempt from this requirement. They spot poison pills right away in a house and neighborhood yet keep mum. You mean my realtor won't tell me because of "ethics" that the builder is crummy? Are you kidding? Or certain house features are not desirable in Dallas? My realtor will let me buy the house knowing I'm making a costly mistake? It's obvious now why realtors like out-of-towners. We're not educated about the local market and make mistakes that could have been avoided had the realtor been honest.
You are wrong. A good buyers agent is very vocal on the good & bad builders. I never hold back on a client and if I have a buyers rep agreement represent that buyer 100%.

What you may not have found is a good buyers agent that really knows new construction. I personally help between 10-15 clients build a new home a year and you just need to find an experienced agent who knows their stuff.
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Old 06-20-2010, 07:11 PM
 
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Thanks for the reply. I now see that agent hunting is as important as house hunting. I bought my last house FSBO. I found it, but the agent I was "working with" wanted about $7500 commission for me to proceed. She said "by law" that I should have signed an exclusive buyer's agreement. Gosh, oh my, did I break the law? How frightening. She finally said she would settle for $500 instead. She never got a cent and now my guard is way up. And the FSBO went flawlessly, a joy for both parties.
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