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Old 06-29-2010, 05:58 PM
 
Location: ITL (Houston)
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Downtown Dallas is definately transforming faster than Houston right now.
I wouldn't say that. They are both about the same. The difference is Houston's vacancies aren't as high as Dallas'. Since 2000, I'd say Downtown Houston has transformed the most. Two new stadiums/arenas (Toyota Center and Minute Maid Park), expanded convention center, three new light rail lines (two under construction now), Discovery Green Park, four new towers around that park (Hess Tower, One Park Place, Embassy Suites, and Hilton Americas..the first two being taller than anything built in Downtown Dallas since 2000), and countless other projects (like the Houston Pavilions and other highrises built in Downtown Houston's Skyline District). Dallas has done well, too, with the new (although sterile) Arts District. It should become less sterile in about twenty years though. Both cities should be proud.
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Old 06-29-2010, 06:03 PM
 
Location: Dallas-Fort Worth Metroplex
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I wouldn't say that. They are both about the same. The difference is Houston's vacancies aren't as high as Dallas'. Since 2000, I'd say Downtown Houston has transformed the most. Two new stadiums/arenas (Toyota Center and Minute Maid Park), expanded convention center, three new light rail lines (two under construction now), Discovery Green Park, four new towers around that park (Hess Tower, One Park Place, Embassy Suites, and Hilton Americas..the first two being taller than anything built in Downtown Dallas since 2000), and countless other projects (like the Houston Pavilions and other highrises built in Downtown Houston's Skyline District). Dallas has done well, too, with the new (although sterile) Arts District. It should become less sterile in about twenty years though. Both cities should be proud.
Dallas' new park called The Park


YouTube - The Park Virtual Fly Through.wmv
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Old 06-30-2010, 12:07 AM
 
Location: Dallas, Texas
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Since it was said to be 50 floors, I'd say over 600ft.



There is a chance (cue in Jim Carry "Dumb and Dumber" references). The economy has to pick back up first. Sucks that Ritz Carlton went broke/didn't manage their properties right in the 90s. Houston had a Ritz Carlton, but now it's the St. Regis (pretty much the same thing as a Ritz). It is suppose to be part hotel and part residential condos at the top. The rest of the project is progressing just fine though.
St Regis hotels are very nice. Theres one planned for Uptown in Dallas. They seem to still be very committed to the Dallas project. Their new hotel in Atlanta is very nice.
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Old 06-30-2010, 12:13 AM
 
Location: Upper East Side of Texas
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Downtown Dallas is definately transforming faster than Houston right now.
Till you get a few more professional sports arenas, parks, & signature buildings in Downtown Dallas then we'll talk. Also you guys need to work on those high office vacancy rates you got going on up there before you go building more towers. First thing comes first.
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Old 06-30-2010, 12:54 AM
 
Location: Austin, TX/Chicago, IL/Houston, TX/Washington, DC
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Ladarron I feel like all of us Houstonians really stole the spotlight here for this thread- and were too critical on it.

http://www.city-data.com/forum/texas...l#post14837344

You're welcome to do the same for our project, no hard feelings. I just felt pretty bad about invading this tread and stuff.
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Old 06-30-2010, 01:08 AM
 
Location: Dallas-Fort Worth Metroplex
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Till you get a few more professional sports arenas, parks, & signature buildings in Downtown Dallas then we'll talk. Also you guys need to work on those high office vacancy rates you got going on up there before you go building more towers. First thing comes first.
You see what I mean, they always bring up the vacancy rate. I guess that is the only bad thing you can say about Dallas.
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Old 06-30-2010, 09:18 AM
 
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Reminds me of a shorter Austonian
The Austonian


Museum Tower:
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Old 06-30-2010, 11:01 AM
 
Location: Austin/Houston
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You see what I mean, they always bring up the vacancy rate. I guess that is the only bad thing you can say about Dallas.
Matt is not even really a Houstonian, at least i don't think at the moment!

So who's they? Anyone with a brain can tell that these are bad economic moves, not just Houstonians.
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Old 06-30-2010, 11:09 AM
 
Location: Dallas-Fort Worth Metroplex
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Matt is not even really a Houstonian, at least i don't think at the moment!

So who's they? Anyone with a brain can tell that these are bad economic moves, not just Houstonians.
You act like I can do something about it.
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Old 06-30-2010, 11:37 AM
 
Location: Dallas, Texas
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I for one am very excited about the development. Optimism is what seems to empower Dallas to strive beyond the status quo.
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