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Old 08-20-2010, 01:57 PM
 
Location: ITL (Houston)
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Originally Posted by Scout_972 View Post
The perception that the 'stuff' in Houston being closer together is overstated. The only things you aren't able to do within 635/Loop 12 in Dallas that you can do within 610 in Houston are attend pro soccor, football and baseball games. And, most of the people in Houston who attend events at these venues are still driving in from the suburbs.

Dallas has the huge advantage of having a major passenger airport (soon to be connected to rail service) within it's loop close to the core.
Are you aware of how much larger 635 is than 610? Loop 12 is a much better comparison to 610, and Loop 12 doesn't offer nearly as many amenities/things to do like 610.

 
Old 08-20-2010, 01:59 PM
 
Location: ITL (Houston)
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Yes, development is pouring into Midtown from the Montrose area to the west where, as I was just pointing out, there does not exist any elevated freeways. There is a submerged freeway to the east of Midtown, but on the other side of it is a ward area, isn't it? Some would call this a slum. Others would call it a ghetto.
And the shear width of that submerged freeway serves to cut off these two areas while, unfortunately, many might think that is a good thing.
So, two and a half sides of the four freeways surrounding Midtown are elevated.
What is the problem with submerging Houston freeways? Torrential down pours that happen during tropical storms and hurricanes.
59 is planned to be submerged from Spur 527, to 288 (which is submerged all throughout the Inner Loop, by the way). As for the flooding of the submerged sections, you tried to make a joke, but that's what they are designed for. Better than more neighborhoods getting flooded.
 
Old 08-20-2010, 02:05 PM
 
Location: ITL (Houston)
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The West Loop isn't elevated, by the way. It's a ground level, only elevated over overpasses.
 
Old 08-20-2010, 02:06 PM
 
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Are you aware of how much larger 635 is than 610? Loop 12 is a much better comparison to 610, and Loop 12 doesn't offer nearly as many amenities/things to do like 610.
Time out! You just missed the most important point of his post which was the intimate proximity of Love Field to central Dallas instead of outside the loop where Hobby is situated compared to the inner, core urban area of Houston.
This is a huge negative for Houston.
In fact, for all intended purposes, Love Field airport can be considered part of the inner core urban area of central Dallas.

Last edited by Mister Nifty; 08-20-2010 at 02:07 PM.. Reason: tweak
 
Old 08-20-2010, 02:06 PM
 
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Dallas is more spread out to put is simply, houston's areas that actually matter are more dense, in houston you will have the option Never going all over the city for anything. In dallas, not so much, you will have to lean the WHOLE city and its suburbs for it to be as usefull.
Not true - I rarely leave the Lakewood-East Dallas/Knox-Henderson/Downtown/Oak Lawn/Uptown/SMU/Deep Ellum-Expo Park/Fair Park core and I average less than 6,000 miles per year on my vehicle. Most weekends it doesn't leave the driveway.
 
Old 08-20-2010, 02:18 PM
 
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Lol, sure DFW is spread out, but HOUSTON isnt?? Everyone goes to Houston to watch the Texans just because they annexed half of the state for the city! Are you really as dull as you sound? You do like Houston, so it definitely sounds like it. Seems as though the sulphur pollution has gone to your brain.
The Reliant Stadium is only a few miles from downtown. Annexation didn't have anything to do with 2 stadiums being built inside downtown Houston in the last decade with a 3rd on the way. Don't be mad because Dallas can't afford to keep their own team's stadiums inside the city. Seems like Dallas should've annexed more even though it did some annexations too. Oak Cliffe was completely swallowed by Dallas, so don't act like that.
 
Old 08-20-2010, 02:27 PM
 
Location: ITL (Houston)
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Time out! You just missed the most important point of his post which was the intimate proximity of Love Field to central Dallas instead of outside the loop where Hobby is situated compared to the inner, core urban area of Houston.
This is a huge negative for Houston.
In fact, for all intended purposes, Love Field airport can be considered part of the inner core urban area of central Dallas.
Why would you want an airport in the urban core? Doesn't matter anyway, as Hobby is just two exits outside of 610.
 
Old 08-20-2010, 02:31 PM
 
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Can't believe people are defending Houston. I hope another hurricane hits you. How are you enjoying your lesbian Hillary Clinton wannabe mayor?
 
Old 08-20-2010, 02:32 PM
 
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The Reliant Stadium is only a few miles from downtown. Annexation didn't have anything to do with 2 stadiums being built inside downtown Houston in the last decade with a 3rd on the way. Don't be mad because Dallas can't afford to keep their own team's stadiums inside the city. Seems like Dallas should've annexed more even though it did some annexations too. Oak Cliffe was completely swallowed by Dallas, so don't act like that.
Not to mention what it did to the Astrodome, Reliant Stadium also led to the demise of the Six Flags across the freeway. Why? Well, because of the Houston Rodeo.
Which is closerto a downtown, Reliant Stadium or the Cotton Bowl? Which is better, the Houston Rodeo or the State Fair of Texas? Is the Fair Park of Dallas a classic? Yes. On what scale? I'd put it on the same scale as Herman Park which is high praise indeed. Which is closer to a light rail line, Reliant Stadium or the Cotton Bowl?

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Old 08-20-2010, 02:34 PM
 
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Yeah because the Oak Cliff annexation is totally comparable to what Hous town did. We can afford anything, but instead we made a suburb pay for the Cowboys stadium while Dallas still gets credit for it. We used the excess money to build a sweet Calatrava bridge that doesnt even go anywhere! That's how rich and glamorous we are.
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