10-30-2010, 01:18 PM
Location: Plano
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Thanks to all for your candid feedback. I'm still fairly new to Texas and as I mentioned this is the first time I've encountered this.
As for the comment about having small children at a bar by GayleTX. My boys are 8 & 11. We were not AT the bar but at a table on the outer edge to see the tv. I hope you weren't implying its my fault for sitting in that area? There are stringent rules at the location regarding kids at the bar and I've never had any other issues like bad language or drunkenness before. Besides I would have heard it no matter where we sat.
I'm not judging all of North Dallas, just want to know if this bold display of hate happens frequently. I would like to think both me and my children should be able to eat in peace no matter where we sit.
10-30-2010, 01:35 PM
Location: Dallas, Texas
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I am almost 2 years into being a Texas resident and experienced the strangest incident about a month ago. I wanted to post it because it is still bothering me and I'm curious if anyone else has experienced this.
First of all I am an African-American woman with 2 mixed-race children. We live in the Plano area but frequent Frisco & McKinney a lot for food, entertainment, etc because I live right on the border of both cities. Well one day at a popular restaurant in McKinney I took my boys to watch the football game. We sat at one of the tables in the bar area (it was around 7pm I think). My boys are watching the game, waiting for their food and the next thing I knew, some guy stormed out of the restaurant screaming WHITE POWER! WHITE POWER! WHITE POWER! Yes he was white.
Needless to say I was SHOCKED and MORTIFIED. My children didn't flinch because they have no idea what that means, they have never been in these situations before. For that matter neither have I. We are from the North Suburbs of Chicago where yes there is more diversity than this area, but, I have always interacted in majority white settings. The bulk of my issues have been being followed around in high-end stores while shopping.
Anyway, as soon as he started yelling, I looked around the bar and saw there were more minorities in there than usual and quite a few mixed race couples (black men / white women). Everyone kind of looked at each other, no one addressed the issue. Not even management. We quickly finished our meals and while leaving I noticed a police car parked outside.
My concern is obvious, but my question is, is this the norm out here?
I mean I know racism is still out there, but for this person to blatantly scream WHITE POWER in a setting like a restaurant was bizarre and unnerving. My children were there ... This incident happened about a month ago and I haven't been able to shake it. I stopped going to that popular restaurant and started going out of my way to go to the location in Frisco. But it got so inconvenient I ended up going back to McKinney which is only 5 minutes away from me. I don't sit near the bar anymore ...
Sounds like you might have met our very own Mr. Nifty in person.
Seriously, you've lived here two years, right? Have you had this happen before? If not, I'd hope you would realize that this type of behavior is not common at all in this area. I don't recall ever hearing anything like that in the almost 10 years I've lived here. I'm sorry that you and your kids had to be exposed to that, but I think avoiding the restaurant you otherwise liked for an isolated incident involving an obvious idiot is kind of extreme. Sounds like it could have happened anywhere.
10-30-2010, 03:53 PM
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Sounds like you might have met our very own Mr. Nifty in person.
Seriously, you've lived here two years, right? Have you had this happen before? If not, I'd hope you would realize that this type of behavior is not common at all in this area. I don't recall ever hearing anything like that in the almost 10 years I've lived here. I'm sorry that you and your kids had to be exposed to that, but I think avoiding the restaurant you otherwise liked for an isolated incident involving an obvious idiot is kind of extreme. Sounds like it could have happened anywhere.
I could dignify this with an answer. Indeed, I could qualify myself. I could point out my college eduation. I could point out my extensive background in the cognitive sciences. I could even point out that my best friend is from Turkey and how I get a lot of advice on how to best treat women by asking a lesbian woman that I know at work. But I'm not.
10-30-2010, 04:46 PM
Location: Mostly in my head
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I would attribute the incident to the fact it happened where it happened - in a BAR ! Since nothing else happened I would have to assume management had already 'done something' about earlier behavior, epsecially since he said it as he was, as you state, 'storming OUT of the bar'....he'd probably already been reprimanded for something and was just acting an ass on his way out the door. ..................
This would be my guess as well. The cop car was probably hanging around to make sure he didn't come back. All stores/restaurants/bars like to keep things as quiet as possible. My grandchildren are Asian American and I have never seen anything when out with the family in the Frisco/Plano area.
10-30-2010, 07:24 PM
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nicolenh
We are from the North Suburbs of Chicago where yes there is more diversity than this area, but, I have always interacted in majority white settings. The bulk of my issues have been being followed around in high-end stores while shopping.
The high-end stores thing would bother me more than the bar neanderthal. The stores' security folks represent management, while the bar guy was only representing his sorry lowlife self.
10-30-2010, 07:30 PM
Location: DFW
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If you were assaulted and car jacked by a black man would you wonder if all black men did this ?
You've been here two years and you wonder if everyone is this way ?
I'm sorry it happened but.... Give me a break, you're a smarter person then this to ask this question.
10-30-2010, 08:08 PM
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Rakin
If you were assaulted and car jacked by a black man would you wonder if all black men did this ?
You've been here two years and you wonder if everyone is this way ?
I'm sorry it happened but.... Give me a break, you're a smarter person then this to ask this question.
Well, that guy was entitled to his opinion and belief system.
10-30-2010, 08:35 PM
Location: South Tampa, Florida
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Welcome to the Bible Belt! - They're are thousands and thousands of morons like this all over TX - Both socially ignorant and backward in their thinking and ideology. Ignorant, small minded "git er done" rednecks seem to gravitate to North TX - They're 3.8 million Southern Baptists in TX with over 40% calling the DFW area home - I'm truly sorry you had the misfortune to experience that king of bigotry.
Many Southern Baptists (the ones who still think segregation was a good idea) strongly believe that interracial marriage and mixed race relationships are wrong and shouldn't be allowed to happen -- Churches, mainly Southern Baptist, are among several organizations that try to deter interracial couples from attending services where the majority or all of the congregation is white - This is still true, no matter what anyone will try and tell you in North Texas, it still exists, read the threads on CD regarding Racism in TX - This is the reason so many people from both coasts, & Colorado still think that the Majority of Texas is still socially backward - Remember the area your in is one of the most socially and politically conservative counties in the entire nation.
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10-30-2010, 08:49 PM
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Many Southern Baptists (the ones who still think segregation was a good idea) strongly believe that interracial marriage and mixed race relationships are wrong
Since Southern Baptists strongly believe drinking and going to bars are wrong, it's unlikely this guy was making a religious statement, i.e. representing the SB viewpoint.
10-31-2010, 04:28 AM
Location: classified
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alphajet
Welcome to the Bible Belt! - They're are thousands and thousands of morons like this all over TX - Both socially ignorant and backward in their thinking and ideology. Ignorant, small minded "git er done" rednecks seem to gravitate to North TX - They're 3.8 million Southern Baptists in TX with over 40% calling the DFW area home - I'm truly sorry you had the misfortune to experience that king of bigotry.
Many Southern Baptists (the ones who still think segregation was a good idea) strongly believe that interracial marriage and mixed race relationships are wrong and shouldn't be allowed to happen -- Churches, mainly Southern Baptist, are among several organizations that try to deter interracial couples from attending services where the majority or all of the congregation is white - This is still true, no matter what anyone will try and tell you in North Texas, it still exists, read the threads on CD regarding Racism in TX - This is the reason so many people from both coasts, & Colorado still think that the Majority of Texas is still socially backward - Remember the area your in is one of the most socially and politically conservative counties in the entire nation.
To the OP: Sorry about that incident but it seems like it was just a guy with a major screw loose.
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People in Group quarters - Mental (Psychiatric) hospitals or wards (%)
People in Group quarters - Schools, hospitals, or wards for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Schools, hospitals, or wards for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutions for the deaf (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutions for the blind (%)
People in Group quarters - Orthopedic wards and institutions for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in general hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in military hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Juvenile institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Long-term care (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for abused, dependent, and neglected children (%)
People in Group quarters - Residential treatment centers for emotionally disturbed children (%)
People in Group quarters - Training schools for juvenile delinquents (%)
People in Group quarters - Short-term care, detention or diagnostic centers for delinquent children (%)
People in Group quarters - Type of juvenile institution unknown (%)
People in Group quarters - Noninstitutionalized population (%)
People in Group quarters - College dormitories (includes college quarters off campus) (%)
People in Group quarters - Military quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - On base (%)
People in Group quarters - Barracks, unaccompanied personnel housing (UPH), (Enlisted/Officer), ;and similar group living quarters for military personnel (%)
People in Group quarters - Transient quarters for temporary residents (%)
People in Group quarters - Military ships (%)
People in Group quarters - Group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes or halfway houses for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Other group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Religious group quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - Dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Agriculture workers' dormitories on farms (%)
People in Group quarters - Job Corps and vocational training facilities (%)
People in Group quarters - Other workers' dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Crews of maritime vessels (%)
People in Group quarters - Other nonhousehold living situations (%)
People in Group quarters - Other noninstitutional group quarters (%)
Residents speaking English at home (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)