The real scoop on Dallas (Houston, Howe: mortgage, how much, home)

[aceplace]

Originally Posted by SpeedyAZ

Dallas is a great city to work and live in but it isn't meant to cater to tourists.

Boston does cater to tourists, but after you see the historic sites and go up the Prudential Tower for a look at the city, you're done with it. Dallas has many of the things Boston does, in terms of cultural opportunities, although Boston has a far greater university atmosphere. But if I want to tour art museums, see a specialty film, listen to a good symphony orchestra, I can do that in Dallas as well as Boston. In terms of quantity, the two metros are comparable.

Besides, the DFW area has historic sites of its own, just not as long a timeline, and it has the mythos of the western frontier.

[aceplace]

Originally Posted by SickOfTheSunbelt

Everybody lives to work rather than works to live.

And to the poster who wondered where I lived before. Chicago, IL.

Do you actually believe you can speak for each of the 6 million people in DFW? Do you realize you're generalizing based on the relatively small number of people you've been in contact with? If you do not, then your claims cannot be taken seriously. If you do, if you know you're misrepresenting your experience, that is even worse.

[aceplace]

Originally Posted by SickOfTheSunbelt

If you move here your friends will never come visit because there is literally nothing for the out of town visitor to do besides shop, eat and drink. And brace yourself for the "fine patio dining" options in Dallas. Gee. This patio overlooking a parking lot or freeway sure is nice.

You can only go to the 6th floor museum so many times....

If you were my tour guide to Dallas, I would probably not visit it either.

Why? You have no particular empathy with, understanding of, or comprehensive knowledge over, the DFW area. You admit you don't know where to find outdoor dining that doesn't face freeways and parking lots, and the only place you can think of to take a visitor is the 6th floor museum.

When people claim that something "doesn't exist", they are not only displaying their ignorance, but also their hubris... believing that if they don't know about it, it must not be there.

[USA_Mom]

It's kind of funny you're from Chicago, because one of my girlfriends moved from Midland to Chicago and loved it initially, but now hates the cost of living and being rushed. She likes the shopping, but like she said to me "I can move back to Dallas, get a big house, and still have money to fly and make shopping trips on the weekends and save."

I *do* get what you are saying though; however, there are a LOT of things to do in Dallas--heck the entire state. I really believe that in a lifetime you couldn't "do" all of Texas...although I dunno I could be wrong.

[bchris02]

I'm looking at relocating to Dallas next year after graduation from a place that REALLY IS as boring as it can get - rural Arkansas. I am looking forward to living in a place where I have entertainment options such as Dave and Busters or having restaraunts besides Taco Bell or shopping besides Wal-Mart.

Like aceplace said, tourist traps aren't everything and once you've seen them you're done. People don't live in an area to be close to a tourist trap - thats what vacations are for.

From the research I've done, I've figured out that DFW as almost anything anybody could be looking for, with the exception of a beach or mountainous areas. In DFW, if you want it, you can find it. I can see the hot weather getting on some people's nerves, but its really not that bad at least from my perspective, but I've lived in hot climates all my life. I am not much for the extreme cold weather of places like Wisconsin.

I can understand being irritated about where you live and wanting to bash it if you aren't the happiest there (I go overboard sometimes about Ft. Smith, Arkansas), but you need to make sure your disdain for a place is warranted.

[aceplace]

Originally Posted by USA_Mom

It's kind of funny you're from Chicago, because one of my girlfriends moved from Midland to Chicago and loved it initially, but now hates the cost of living and being rushed. She likes the shopping, but like she said to me "I can move back to Dallas, get a big house, and still have money to fly and make shopping trips on the weekends and save."

I haven't done a survey, but I'd guess that there's nothing in Chicago that you couldn't buy in Dallas. Our metro has 6 million people and that's enough of a population base to support virtually everything.

Originally Posted by USA_Mom

I *do* get what you are saying though; however, there are a LOT of things to do in Dallas--heck the entire state. I really believe that in a lifetime you couldn't "do" all of Texas...although I dunno I could be wrong.

The original poster is either a troll, or is incredibly stupid and boring... Dallas has virtually every kind of human activity going on, can offer any form of amusement. His post is one long insult as he tries to retaliate for some grievance he thinks he has suffered.

[aceplace]

Originally Posted by bchris02

I am looking forward to living in a place where I have entertainment options such as Dave and Busters or having restaraunts besides Taco Bell or shopping besides Wal-Mart.

When you enter the Big D, you will feel like you're walking into paradise.

Originally Posted by bchris02

From the research I've done, I've figured out that DFW as almost anything anybody could be looking for, with the exception of a beach or mountainous areas. In DFW, if you want it, you can find it. I can see the hot weather getting on some people's nerves, but its really not that bad at least from my perspective, but I've lived in hot climates all my life. I am not much for the extreme cold weather of places like Wisconsin.

Milwaukee may be a great place, but compared to Dallas, it's very limited and bleak. Most people want to escape the climate of places like Wisconsin... they migrate to hot weather places like Dallas or Phoenix.

Originally Posted by bchris02

I can understand being irritated about where you live and wanting to bash it if you aren't the happiest there (I go overboard sometimes about Ft. Smith, Arkansas), but you need to make sure your disdain for a place is warranted.

I've lived in places I didn't like, but I had no particular reason to insult the places or the people who lived in them. Our original poster does, he wants to annoy people. He's disturbed.

[kt2le]

Originally Posted by aceplace

If you were my tour guide to Dallas, I would probably not visit it either.

Why? You have no particular empathy with, understanding of, or comprehensive knowledge over, the DFW area. You admit you don't know where to find outdoor dining that doesn't face freeways and parking lots, and the only place you can think of to take a visitor is the 6th floor museum.

When people claim that something "doesn't exist", they are not only displaying their ignorance, but also their hubris... believing that if they don't know about it, it must not be there.

Thank you for the PERFECT response! My thoughts exactly.

[karnival96]

Interestingly, if you check out the forums for many of the so-called tourist hot spots (Miami, Los Angeles, New York ...), you will find numerous people clamoring to get away from them. It seems that in their eyes, only the rich can afford to live comfortably and safely in these places.

[jfre81]

Shortly after Rita, the NOLA invasion and a string of personal problems I got it in my head that Texas sucked and Houston sucked and I was off to bigger and better things on the East Coast.

And a little more than a year later, guess where I am...people take the good things about Texas for granted after awhile.