Environmental hazards around Plano? (Frisco, Cleburne: mineral rights, sale, how much)

[c2002]

Currently shopping for a home in Plano, but heard about the battery plant that might be causing a cancer cluster in Frisco. Has that been resolved yet? Will the lead in the air float over to Plano from Frisco?

Also, are there other possible environmental hazards in Plano or surrounding cities? Culprits may include factories, refineries, industrial farms (fertilizers), military bases (industrial lubricants), etc.

Many people think environmental hazards only happen to poor neighborhoods, but that is simply not true. In Irvine, CA, residents are finding that an old air force base used to dump industrial lubricants into the ground and now it has developed into an underground plume that is traveling beneath some of the most expensive areas of Irvine.

Any insights would be greatly appreciated!

[EDS_]

Originally Posted by c2002

Currently shopping for a home in Plano, but heard about the battery plant that might be causing a cancer cluster in Frisco. Has that been resolved yet? Will the lead in the air float over to Plano from Frisco?

Also, are there other possible environmental hazards in Plano or surrounding cities? Culprits may include factories, refineries, industrial farms (fertilizers), military bases (industrial lubricants), etc.

Many people think environmental hazards only happen to poor neighborhoods, but that is simply not true. In Irvine, CA, residents are finding that an old air force base used to dump industrial lubricants into the ground and now it has developed into an underground plume that is traveling beneath some of the most expensive areas of Irvine.

Any insights would be greatly appreciated!

It's impossible to know for sure. I'd relax a little regarding lead contamination around the plant in Frisco for one lead typically does not travel far.

Like it or nor there will be increased natural gas exploration around here and all over the country. Listen to President Obama tonight for more.

Good luck regarding your search.

[c2002]

Thanks EDS. I will tune in for sure.

I have heard some interesting stories about the natural gas bounty. Rumors I've heard:

• When a city discovers gas, every resident gets a cut of the profits (true?)
• The drilling have caused tiny earthquakes but they're nothing to worry about.

Hmmm... OK I only had two items. Probably didn't need a bullet list.

[momof2dfw]

Originally Posted by c2002

Thanks EDS. I will tune in for sure.

I have heard some interesting stories about the natural gas bounty. Rumors I've heard:

• When a city discovers gas, every resident gets a cut of the profits (true?)
• The drilling have caused tiny earthquakes but they're nothing to worry about.

Hmmm... OK I only had two items. Probably didn't need a bullet list.

LOL!!!

No, if they find gas on city owned property the CITY gets the proceeds. Same for the school district property. It's not enough to cut a check to every resident, ROTFL!!! Our check from our gas well came last week. It's split 4 ways (1/2 then 1/2 again). For 6 months it was a little over $2000. I can imagine the cities issuing a check for a penny or two to all residents. LOL!!!

Most of those earthquakes in North Texas have been down around Cleburne. That's a good ways from Plano.

[TurtleCreek80]

The battery factory is fairly far north in Frisco. From the factory to most of Central/ West/ East Plano is at least 10+ miles. I wouldn't really worry. Most of the research has shown the greatest harm would be within a 2 mile radius.

Originally Posted by c2002

I have heard some interesting stories about the natural gas bounty. Rumors I've heard:

• When a city discovers gas, every resident gets a cut of the profits (true?)

Nope! You must own the mineral rights in order to get royalty checks. When natural gas was discovered in the Southlake / Colleyville area, some rights went to the sub-div developers (who owned the land at that time), some went to individual land owners, some went to the city if it was city-managed property. Some sub-divs banded together to negotiate as a group; others went it on their own.

Mineral rights do not change hands when property is sold. So if you were an original owner in Southlake, for example, and signed a deal with a natural gas company, whenever you go to sell your home, the mineral rights are not inclued in the sale & royalty checks will follow you.

Originally Posted by c2002

The drilling have caused tiny earthquakes but they're nothing to worry about.

Some tiny earthquakes near Midlothian (west of FW) have been attribued to gas drilling. Think they registered around 2 on the 10-pt scale. Minor tremors. I personally wouldn't want to live on top of that, but most of DFW is on top of the world's largest natural gas field (Barnett Shale), so it's unavoidable in a bunch of areas. As petroleum prices rise, the incentive to drill gas rises too (becomes more cost effecient).

[newtoTexas2]

Originally Posted by c2002

Currently shopping for a home in Plano, but heard about the battery plant that might be causing a cancer cluster in Frisco. Has that been resolved yet? Will the lead in the air float over to Plano from Frisco?

Also, are there other possible environmental hazards in Plano or surrounding cities? Culprits may include factories, refineries, industrial farms (fertilizers), military bases (industrial lubricants), etc.

Many people think environmental hazards only happen to poor neighborhoods, but that is simply not true. In Irvine, CA, residents are finding that an old air force base used to dump industrial lubricants into the ground and now it has developed into an underground plume that is traveling beneath some of the most expensive areas of Irvine.

Any insights would be greatly appreciated!

I lived close to Irvine for 13 years - there are a lot of thoughts/issues about what was in that ground for many years...
We live in Plano and I have also heard/read about that "cancer cluster" and I am already concerned about cancer - (survivor here) - so I have stayed away from Frisco but am also worried as I live in Plano - pretty close to Frisco...

[EDS_]

Originally Posted by c2002

Thanks EDS. I will tune in for sure.

I have heard some interesting stories about the natural gas bounty. Rumors I've heard:

• When a city discovers gas, every resident gets a cut of the profits (true?)
• The drilling have caused tiny earthquakes but they're nothing to worry about.

Hmmm... OK I only had two items. Probably didn't need a bullet list.

I rather enjoy two item bullet lists.

The mineral rights owner always gets a cut. Sometimes non-owners do too. My brother live just of the Trinity River just north of I20 in Forth Worth, he and his wife were paid ~$10K for 5 years drilling rights under heir house even though they didn't own any mineral rights.

Any earthquakes caused by drilling and hydo-fracking are trivial. We've been fracking in Texas since the late 1940s. There's nothing to worry about, coal mining causes worse earthquakes.

[skids929]

Originally Posted by EDS_

Listen to President Obama tonight for more.
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Now why would anyone want to subject themselves to that..Most of the time when I listen to him, I walk away feeling dumber.

[EDS_]

Originally Posted by skids929

Now why would anyone want to subject themselves to that..Most of the time when I listen to him, I walk away feeling dumber.

I dislike his politics intensely. That said he IS our president and one clear problem in the US is our lack of a coherent energy policy. We sit on geometrically increasing proved reserves of natural gas, ever increasing proved reserves of oil and enough coal to answer our aggregate BTU load for at least 150 years. And we sit here like intransigent children crying about high gas/electricity/fuel oil prices and dependence on foreign sources of oil. When the short term answers are below our feet. And under The Gulf too. We need reliable BTU delivery to keep the economy from slipping into second world status. We need these things to bridge the gap until photovoltaic solar, thermal solar, wind or Mr. Fusion solve our energy problems long term.

[adixyz]

Originally Posted by c2002

Currently shopping for a home in Plano, but heard about the battery plant that might be causing a cancer cluster in Frisco. Has that been resolved yet? Will the lead in the air float over to Plano from Frisco?

Also, are there other possible environmental hazards in Plano or surrounding cities? Culprits may include factories, refineries, industrial farms (fertilizers), military bases (industrial lubricants), etc.

Many people think environmental hazards only happen to poor neighborhoods, but that is simply not true. In Irvine, CA, residents are finding that an old air force base used to dump industrial lubricants into the ground and now it has developed into an underground plume that is traveling beneath some of the most expensive areas of Irvine.

Any insights would be greatly appreciated!

Don't go by the news or exceptions. Generally the ozone is bad in DFW area. Its worse in California.To be realistic you have to consider the air quality around you and the time you are exposed. There are short term and long term impacts on exposure to various components. Some people are more sensitive than others. Another major factor is population. Densely populated areas or areas near highways or excessive retail are likely to have more extended pollution due to thousands of automobiles, establishments...etc compared to less populated areas with few industrial locations. Things like commute time and how much you time you spent in peak time stuck in traffic.Also consider the ability of the Town to enforce ordinances and ability to protect and listen to their residents.