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Unread 07-29-2011, 08:39 PM
 
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Default Woodrow Wilson: ACADEMICALLY UNACCEPTABLE?

Just wanted to make sure this did not get overlooked.

Take a look at this ranking:
1. Exemplary
2. Recognized
3. Academically Acceptable
4. Woodrow Wilson


Dallas pumpers: Please don't dismiss this ranking as a meaningless measure. If your schools were rated exemplary, you'd have 8 threads dedicated to it. If Frisco high school ranked as poorly as WW, you'd have 16.

Allow me to guess:
"Woodrow admitted 20 students from Haiti that lowered our scores".

Thank God DISD is using their limited resources to institute an IB program at this academically unacceptable school. Genius.

Fire away!
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Unread 07-29-2011, 08:49 PM
 
Location: Junius Heights
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Sure.
Taks tests are meaningless. I'll whisper it .. shh meaningless. I'll shout it . MEANINGLESS! Every single study I have ever seen show that standardized tests, from stuff like the TAKS all the way to the SAT are not useful indicators of anything. The only thing the TAKS does is waste school time as teachers teach about beating the test instead of educating kids. They do this in poor schools,and they did this in great schools. It was sure done @ J. J. Pearce when i took The TAAS test there in the early 90's. They spent 6 weeks stopping any and all education and taut us test taking skills.

Neither the TAKS (nor interestingly the SAT) are even good indicators of how a student will do in college, so clearly they totally fail at measuring education.

It is meaningless that Woodrow is Academically Unacceptible, it is meaningless that Lakewood and Stonewall are Exemplary. It is meaningless that Lipscomb(where my son goes) is Recognized. It is ALL meaningless. If you make a decision based on these scores..... well I'd say you deserve what you get, but your kid doesn't. Do your research, go to the schools, talk to parents, teachers, students, former students, and then make the call.
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Unread 07-29-2011, 08:52 PM
 
Location: Forney Texas
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rankings for DISD only matter when it makes them look good. If it makes them look bad there is an excuse for it. Thats the rules on city data!
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Unread 07-29-2011, 08:55 PM
 
Location: Junius Heights
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rankings for DISD only matter when it makes them look good. If it makes them look bad there is an excuse for it. Thats the rules on city data!
Nah it doesn't matter either way to some of us. I'm non partisan though. I don't think SET results matter much in any district.
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Unread 07-29-2011, 08:57 PM
 
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Thank God DISD is using their limited resources to institute an IB program at this academically unacceptable school. Genius.

Fire away!
I think the IB program is genius. As someone in Lakewood with TAG kids and kids going to TAG magnets, this is a HUGE factor in our decision about whether to stay local vs Townview TAG vs a private. I'm not sure ultimately what we will decide, but the question of "choose Woodrow" or not has become far more nuanced and complicated than it might have been 10 years ago.

Let me be clear: I do not care at all about an overall ranking of AU, particularly if it is based on one subgroup's performance in math or science. I wish and hope that all students perform well, but my ultimate decision (like most parents) is based on what is best for my child. I am fully confident that an IB program is rigorous and competitive for college admissions. And if you want to get strategic about it, an inner-city IB diploma is arguably looked upon more favorably than a suburban school.
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Unread 07-29-2011, 09:02 PM
 
Location: Dallas,Texas
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The state changed the ranking. My school was suppose to be recognized but it's now academically acceptable. They have made the rankings even higher so it's harder to become recognized. At my school everyone passed everything except math. Only 2 people failed math.
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Unread 07-29-2011, 09:27 PM
 
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Originally Posted by DFW_Mike View Post
Just wanted to make sure this did not get overlooked.

Take a look at this ranking:
1. Exemplary
2. Recognized
3. Academically Acceptable
4. Woodrow Wilson


Dallas pumpers: Please don't dismiss this ranking as a meaningless measure. If your schools were rated exemplary, you'd have 8 threads dedicated to it. If Frisco high school ranked as poorly as WW, you'd have 16.

Allow me to guess:
"Woodrow admitted 20 students from Haiti that lowered our scores".

Thank God DISD is using their limited resources to institute an IB program at this academically unacceptable school. Genius.

Fire away!

This thread was SO unnecessary. Why this type of "bashing" (from either side!) has to keep occurring is beyond me?!?!
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Unread 07-29-2011, 09:35 PM
 
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This thread was SO unnecessary. Why this type of "bashing" (from either side!) has to keep occurring is beyond me?!?!
It's not bashing at all. As a parent in DFW, I'm hugely interested in how schools perform, the nuances of how they do, why some perform better than others and how that affects my own real estate and school choices.

DID Frisco outperform Plano? If so, why? That is very interesting to me. For a certain segment of DFW parents, the educational performance of local districts is extraordinarily important. That's why many people live where they do.
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Unread 07-29-2011, 09:37 PM
 
Location: DFW Metroplex. Not TX-born but never leaving.
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Agreed with PlanoGirl. There are a variety of places and schools across the city and Metroplex. Just because I prefer the suburbs doesn't mean I feel the need to bash those who like the city or a part of the city or the exurbs. Holy guacamole, people.
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Unread 07-29-2011, 09:47 PM
 
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It's not bashing at all. As a parent in DFW, I'm hugely interested in how schools perform, the nuances of how they do, why some perform better than others and how that affects my own real estate and school choices.

DID Frisco outperform Plano? If so, why? That is very interesting to me. For a certain segment of DFW parents, the educational performance of local districts is extraordinarily important. That's why many people live where they do.
A civil discussion of the merits of one school district over another...I have absolutely no problem with. I agree...it IS interesting, not to mention, great information to those who live here and those who are planning on moving to the area.

The bashing I am referring to (which I thought was obvious given I quoted the OP) is when a poster starts a thread with the SOLE intention to disrespect another's choice. In this situation, the blatant scoffing of Woodrow's drop in ratings by the OP. It was pretty much a "Look how much DISD sucks" thread. THAT is what I don't care for.
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