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Old 09-20-2011, 09:39 PM
 
Location: Plano,TX
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Just wondering if anyone knows what transpired at the Plano School district realignment meeting today and if any decisions have been made.
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Old 09-20-2011, 11:31 PM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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I can fill you in a bit. No decisions were made, since it was a work session, not a board meeting.

The administration presented both fixed and operational cost estimates for 3 situations:

A) Continuing the Schimelpfenig choice zone. Fixed cost is a $17M expansion to PWSH (new capacity 3500 students), operational costs are maintenance on that expansion and about $100K/year in busing.

B) Pulling the plug on the choice zone. Fixed cost is a $10M expansion to PWSH (new capacity 3000 students), operational cost is maintenance on that smaller expansion.

C) Instituting a fairly ridiculous massive redistricting to balance enrollments across all 3 senior highs. Fixed costs would be $0M (no expansion of PWSH needed), operational costs were at least $160K/year in busing. Among other disruptions, the kids of one of the board members would be removed from PWSH. Further details are irrelevant, as the board quickly came to a consensus not to pursue this possibility.

The board discussion quickly focused on the pros and cons, as well as the nuts and bolts, of eliminating the Schimelpfenig choice zone in future years. More critically, the board appears to have dismissed all other, more drastic, ways to reduce PWSH enrollment. So as far as that goes, it's either get rid of the choice zone, or do nothing.

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What will happen? Hard to say.

The board has 3 members that have pretty clearly indicated their support of (A) - keep the choice zone and build the larger $17M expansion.

The administration presented figures in such a way as to (IMO) convey their implicit support of (B) - kill the choice zone, build the smaller expansion, and save $7M on construction and $100K+ on busing and building maintenance.

The other 4 board members include 2 solid votes for (B), a loose cannon whose vote is unpredictable, and a (IMO, again) weak personality who could easily be swayed either way.

Any kind of final decision is still several meetings and public hearings away.
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Old 09-21-2011, 12:25 AM
 
Location: Plano,TX
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Thanks Big G! This is very informative.

So looks like the option to convert Jasper to a Sr.High is off the table? And no rezoning of the elementary and middle schools?
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Old 09-21-2011, 05:52 AM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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So looks like the option to convert Jasper to a Sr.High is off the table? And no rezoning of the elementary and middle schools?
Yeah, those ideas are now DOA.
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Old 09-21-2011, 06:25 AM
 
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So is it the Plano West people don't want more students due to the school getting bigger or specifically they don't want more Asian students to crowd into the top 10%? One of the quotes in the paper this morning said Plano West doesn't want "the smarts" coming into the school.
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Old 09-21-2011, 08:04 AM
 
Location: Wylie, Texas
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So is it the Plano West people don't want more students due to the school getting bigger or specifically they don't want more Asian students to crowd into the top 10%? One of the quotes in the paper this morning said Plano West doesn't want "the smarts" coming into the school.

that is just so mind boggling to me...wanting to deliberately 'dumb down' your school? I mean I understand the top ten per cent deal but is that worth the school losing a bit of its prestige if it no longer produces the high flyers?
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Old 09-21-2011, 08:09 AM
 
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If that's the case then Plano West should be happy to know that the HUD projects at Hillcrest/Ohio and George Bush are being expanded. They are adding some apartments next to the 4 plexes. It feeds into Plano West and my guess is Plano West folks don't fear those poor folks taking up space in the top 10%.
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Old 09-21-2011, 08:24 AM
 
Location: Plano, TX
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Do the people of Plano actually have any say into their schools, or is the corrupt board just going through the motions and imposing their will?
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Old 09-21-2011, 09:23 AM
 
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Scattershooting about the above posts:

1. The board is in a nearly impossible position. No matter what they do thousands of people will bash them.

2. The board is not corrupt. If someone has contrary evidence present it.

3. It seems to me given open minds and clear thinking that balancing the high schools should be a strongly considered option.
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Old 09-21-2011, 11:23 AM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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Slow down! One at a time!

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So is it the Plano West people don't want more students due to the school getting bigger or specifically they don't want more Asian students to crowd into the top 10%? One of the quotes in the paper this morning said Plano West doesn't want "the smarts" coming into the school.
If that was their goal, they failed miserably. The rejected 4th senior high plan was the only proposal ever on the table that would keep "the smarts" from attending PWSH going forward.


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that is just so mind boggling to me...wanting to deliberately 'dumb down' your school? I mean I understand the top ten per cent deal but is that worth the school losing a bit of its prestige if it no longer produces the high flyers?
The school zones being proposed for kicking out of PWSH have never actually even attended PWSH yet. The 2009 realignment determined that they will be sent there starting with the Class of 2015. PWSH isn't going to lose any of its NMSFs - it's a question of how many more they will add. (At the expense of PSHS, I should note .) The prestige factor can only go up for the school as a whole.


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If that's the case then Plano West should be happy to know that the HUD projects at Hillcrest/Ohio and George Bush are being expanded. They are adding some apartments next to the 4 plexes. It feeds into Plano West and my guess is Plano West folks don't fear those poor folks taking up space in the top 10%.
I did a drive-by of that construction a few months back. It turns out that the construction on that site is for a senior living project, not more DHA family stuff. The complex rezoning option on the table briefly last night DID include moving the DHA 4-plexes from PWSH to PSHS.

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Do the people of Plano actually have any say into their schools, or is the corrupt board just going through the motions and imposing their will?
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2. The board is not corrupt. If someone has contrary evidence present it.
This. Just because they have opposing opinions doesn't make them evil. And just because they want to consider revoking a special privilege granted ONLY to the neighborhoods of the previous board president and vice-president doesn't make them crooks. (It might make you wonder about the previous board, but that's another issue.)

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3. It seems to me given open minds and clear thinking that balancing the high schools should be a strongly considered option.
I agree. I can make strong arguments both for and against eliminating the choice zone. The other options were all just stupid and a waste of time.
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