More Plano ISD students opting for private schools (Dallas, Richardson: real estate, new home)

[TX75007]

Originally Posted by Vicman

Well the DISD magnets are all smaller than the large Plano ISD schools. Perhaps percentages/per capita is a better measure?
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I already mentioned the percentage basis.

The magnets still fail the NMSF and College test no matter how you slice it.

Plano, Flower Mound, and HP have 95% of the public NMSF and Tier 1 College grads.

[TX75007]

Originally Posted by hsw

Or do a teardown in PrestonHollow on more land and pay up for StMarks as part of cost of raising kids in any slummy, poor "city"

Entrance to a Tier 1 private is not a slam dunk. You do not get 25% NMSF per class by letting anyone in. These kids are extremely intelligent.

Originally Posted by hsw

But often far more lucrative tech (esp software) is dominated by Stanford CS...and kids from Berk/IL CS...and a lot of kids from crappy state engineering colleges...and dropouts...not many kids w/"Ivy" lib arts degrees:

Riiiiight. I'll bet you don't hire and fire or manage CS grads or look at many resumes.

undegrad...and lots of highest-earners in tech or hedge funds of past 20yrs are products of public suburban HS which are far more mediocre than Plano...raises serious questions about "value" of costly or allegedly "prestigious" HS (or even that of elite engineering colleges)

Actually, most of the top entrepreneurs were Profoundly Gifted kids who came mostly from top school systems and who had highly educated parents who doted on them and carefully managed their early education. They either easily got into a top college or snuck into classes there or had friends who did go there who came to work for them.

[tyanger]

Originally Posted by crbcrbrgv

There's a reason UT ranks lower than University of California Irvine. Think about it.

Is it because UC Irvine(47%) has more than 2.5 times as many Asian undergraduate students than UT Austin(18%)?

[GreyDay]

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Originally Posted by compSciGuy

Plano ISD ignores all those kids unless they are AP or Honors.

Is it because UC Irvine has 2.5 times more Asian undergraduate students than UT Austin?

What would that have to do with anything?

[tyanger]

Originally Posted by GreyDay

What would that have to do with anything?

ummm ... it was a joke.

I was trying to tie in the idea from the recent PISD thread(s) that some parents in Plano are motivated to select schools for their children and/or support alignment plans that would avoid large percentages of Asian students because this would "raise the bar" too high for their kiddos. I thought this was funny when I read it, and I wanted to share my mirth. This very notion was discussed in this thread as well - so when I read it here, it reminded me of the other thread.

Also, I was attempting to be humorous by throwing out a random idea that's impossible, or at least very difficult, to prove as to why UCI might rank higher than UTA - like in the post I was responding to; hinting that unionization was responsible for better metrics.

Furthermore, my intent was to facetiously highlight the overly simplistic explanation of why UCI might rank higher than UTA (again, as in that same post I was responding to) by implying that my own single random factor was largely responsible for the different ranking.

Lastly, I left a hint that it was all a joke by including a winky/smiley at the conclusion of my post.

My apologies if any of this was unclear.

There! ... I think this horse is dead.

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[GreyDay]

It's interesting to watch the shots fly in this mega-school district reorganization. What's more interesting are the comments from folks without a dog in the fight.

[DtX4415]

Originally Posted by TurtleCreek80

Plano isn't starting on "third base" anymore. The district's economically disadvantaged population is the fastest growing segment. I don't have the exact percentage handy, but somewhere near 30% of the district is E/D now and in some schools it's well over the majority.

23.6% (2009-2010) <----- latest year I could find.
20.7% (2008-2009)
20.5% (2005-2006)
16.6% (2004-2005)
10.4% (2001-2002)
9.5% (2000-2001)

[tyanger]

Originally Posted by GreyDay

It's interesting to watch the shots fly in this mega-school district reorganization. What's more interesting are the comments from folks without a dog in the fight.

In the spirit of full disclosure and getting back on topic - FWIW, I present the data point that is I:

I graduated from PSHS about 2 decades ago, I have 2 children in PISD right now who should graduate from PSHS in about another decade, and I am Asian (as are my children ). As far as I know my parents never considered private school for me. I graduated #50 out of about 1400 seniors, I am a National Merit Scholar, and I tested out of about 30 credit hours through AP and Achievement testing. PISD served me well and at this moment I see no reason to look into sending my kids to a private school or moving to a different district. I suspect my kids would be alright in any of the 3 senior high schools in PISD, of course only time will tell.

(Woof! Woof! )

[Rabbitwarren]

I disliked our neighborhood elementary school in PISD intensely. The expectations for student behavior and achievement seemed low; the parents didn't seem jazzed about the school or education in general and the environment was a free-for-all. At the time, I knew no one in my neighborhood whose children attended anything other than private school. We lasted one year and moved to a private school. Chaos, be gone! We live in west Plano near a "good" elementary school. I have friends who sent their children there after mine. All but one pulled their kids out due to the crummy environment. I grew up in public schools, as did my husband. But this was bad. Really. It was like an ABC After School Special every day. If we had to make it work, we would. Luckily, we don't have to.

[Vicman]

Originally Posted by Rabbitwarren

I disliked our neighborhood elementary school in PISD intensely. The expectations for student behavior and achievement seemed low; the parents didn't seem jazzed about the school or education in general and the environment was a free-for-all. At the time, I knew no one in my neighborhood whose children attended anything other than private school. We lasted one year and moved to a private school. Chaos, be gone! We live in west Plano near a "good" elementary school. I have friends who sent their children there after mine. All but one pulled their kids out due to the crummy environment. I grew up in public schools, as did my husband. But this was bad. Really. It was like an ABC After School Special every day. If we had to make it work, we would. Luckily, we don't have to.

Just as a curiosity, what are the names of the schools?