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Old 02-13-2012, 08:33 AM
 
Location: Rocky Mountain Xplorer
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An Alaska style network is not for American. They would have to shut down 3.5 hubs to emulate it. That wont work.

Alaksa has very low costs and an entirely North American network. But American's problem (for the most part) is not their route network. DFW and MIA are goldmines. They struggle in Chicago but once they get larger regional jets, that will help tremendously. Lower costs will allow them to expand in New York as well.

When I say that costs are their problem, it's primarily the bang for their buck they are getting from the union employees, not the hourly rates. The productivity is very low. However BK will fix that.
OK, you are certainly correct when you say that DFW and MIA are killer hubs, so why not keep those aces in your hand and discard the 2s, 3s, etc. instead of getting back into this ego-driven competition with the guys in Chicago and ATL to be the top-dog, the biggest airline, aka "mine is bigger than yours" ? I bet one thing you might say is something like - "well, American would lose its business customers if its not as big as it's competitors to include a global route system" ?
It's always been my understanding that the ultimate goal of the senior management of public corporations is to maximize return on investment for their shareholders ? As an active investor I know that's what I look for, don't you ? And maybe Alaska Airlines isn't a giant with a global network, but from an investment perspective its doing far better than the "giants" from what I see. Not that I would recommend investing in the airline industry. Trade them, they offer great trading opportunities, but look to airlines
for a longer term investment ? No way !
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Old 05-11-2012, 06:42 PM
 
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I think Alaska Airlines needs to purchase American!
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Old 05-11-2012, 06:45 PM
 
Location: Texas
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I hate American Airlines so much.
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Old 05-13-2012, 10:17 AM
 
Location: Rocky Mountain Xplorer
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I hate American Airlines so much.
I flew American recently and had a very positive experience. The truth is they are probably no better or no worse than the next carrier.
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Old 05-13-2012, 01:50 PM
 
Location: Willowbend/Houston
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I flew American recently and had a very positive experience. The truth is they are probably no better or no worse than the next carrier.
I personally have had the best and worst service Ive ever had on American. Ive had FA's that went out of their way to make my flying as positive as it could be and Ive had FA's that made me get my own water when I was in First Class.
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Old 05-13-2012, 02:27 PM
 
Location: Southlake. Don't judge me.
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I personally have had the best and worst service Ive ever had on American. Ive had FA's that went out of their way to make my flying as positive as it could be and Ive had FA's that made me get my own water when I was in First Class.
I had a truly horrid experience one time on American Eagle with an FA who was useless and obnoxious. I've also had some very nice experiences on American Eagle, so I can't make blanket statements.

On mainline American, I once had an absolutely wonderful experience. Can't remember any "bad" ones, most of the time it's just...well, a plane flight, nothing exceptional in either direction.

I like the fact that a decent percentage of American flights have onboard internet access, which United does not have (actually, they may just be starting to roll that out now). I do not like flying in the back of an MD80 with all the engine noise. The American planes I've been on also generally seem a little "older" (a little more beat up and a bit dingier) in the interior, but that could just be my perception. (Note that this is all relative to United only, I've almost never flown on another carrier).

My observations are obviously based on a limited sample size, but it's likely more flights than most posters here, so all of us are really just trading anecdotes.
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Old 05-13-2012, 08:31 PM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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I know these long threads tend to drift, but there hasn't been any more noise about DL acquiring AA, has there? I just don't see how that could possibly pass regulatory/anti-trust muster.
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Old 05-13-2012, 09:56 PM
 
Location: Willowbend/Houston
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I know these long threads tend to drift, but there hasn't been any more noise about DL acquiring AA, has there? I just don't see how that could possibly pass regulatory/anti-trust muster.
Its not even that Delta/American couldnt pass the DOJ/DOT. Delta doesnt want any part of the labor nightmare that is American. Delta would only be interested in pieces of American (like Miami and maybe DFW). With Americans labor on board with US, it would be too hard for Delta to get backing at this stage.

To be honest, the only reason Delta ever let it be know they "might" be interested in acquiring AA was to force US Airways hand.
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