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Old 01-17-2012, 08:27 AM
 
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To convey some context:

Almost everyday 135,000 cars pass over that portion of 635 in each direction - that's 270,000 cars total. Most of them during the day.

Shutting down a lane for any daylight hour delays thousands and thousands of people.

Luckily, I'm guessing this guy blocked a lane for far less than an hour - the back-up was bad and unnecessary but it was not huge.
I still disagree. I don't agree with policing people around more than you already have to. A basic regulation of society is ok, cross that threshold and it's not ok to me.

Yes, the guy was in the wrong. He should've gassed up, he should've pulled all the way to the shoulder. In fact, I'll go as far as the guy's probably an idiot to put himself in that position.

But to start fining people to prevent this occurrence? No way. People can figure out they're idiots on their own. We don't need Big Brother watching over us every step of the way.

 
Old 01-17-2012, 08:31 AM
 
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From a public health and per capita perspectives overweight people impose more healthcare costs, lost work time etc. than the non overweight. Ergo they should pay more to cover these societal costs. The private insurance markets are moving this way quickly. I say that as someone starting a diet today!
And what's next? We start fining people because they're white or black or asian? Are we going by statistical lifespans now? Those who are statistically inclined to die earlier will use up resources quicker and thus should be fined as well?

Because one race lives longer than another - we should give them a tax credit?

What's next? Males should be fined for having shorter lifespans and likely to use more healthcare resources?

Listen - I agree, obesity does have a large impact on society - but I still don't agree in more government control over this issue.

More government control and we lose our individuality. You can't have both.

Before you know it, we'll be living in a world akin to Gattaca.
 
Old 01-17-2012, 08:32 AM
 
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I still disagree. I don't agree with policing people around more than you already have to. A basic regulation of society is ok, cross that threshold and it's not ok to me.

Yes, the guy was in the wrong. He should've gassed up, he should've pulled all the way to the shoulder. In fact, I'll go as far as the guy's probably an idiot to put himself in that position.

But to start fining people to prevent this occurrence? No way. People can figure out they're idiots on their own. We don't need Big Brother watching over us every step of the way.
I wish it were so, but laissez-faire logic fails in large cramped societies.
 
Old 01-17-2012, 08:35 AM
 
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Originally Posted by pinipig523 View Post
And what's next? We start fining people because they're white or black or asian? Are we going by statistical lifespans now? Those who are statistically inclined to die earlier will use up resources quicker and thus should be fined as well?

Because one race lives longer than another - we should give them a tax credit?

What's next? Males should be fined for having shorter lifespans and likely to use more healthcare resources?

Listen - I agree, obesity does have a large impact on society - but I still don't agree in more government control over this issue.

More government control and we lose our individuality. You can't have both.

Before you know it, we'll be living in a world akin to Gattaca.
Vis a vis overweight and societal costs - I'm talking about private insurance costs going up for that cadre not government regulations. At least not directly.
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