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Old 03-19-2013, 08:29 AM
 
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So how do they decide admissions? Is it based on a waiting list or do kids test for open spots? If kids test for open spots, do they take kids who score lower on the tests just to ensure that they have diversity? Please educate me on the system. Despite living fairly close to the school, I know little about it.
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Old 03-19-2013, 08:42 AM
 
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So how do they decide admissions? Is it based on a waiting list or do kids test for open spots? If kids test for open spots, do they take kids who score lower on the tests just to ensure that they have diversity? Please educate me on the system. Despite living fairly close to the school, I know little about it.
I was pretty sure you lived in DISD and was surprised to see your statement...it's basically an interview. It's like Yale, they want a certain cutoff score, but that's not what it's about. It's about the intangible quality of who "fits". It's a hippie learning model and appeals to families that don't want to teach to the test. They still take all the standardized tests, but there's little to no prep for it. One day the test just shows up and the kids take it. They sit on carpet squares, play with abacuses, etc.

And DISD has 5 divisions. None of the divisions are geographic. So in Division 1 the bulk of your interested families are coming from Kessler Park (Sunset) and Preston Hollow (TJ); Division 2 from North Dallas (W.T. White); Division 3 from Uptown (North Dallas) and Preston Hollow (Hillcrest); Division 4 from Lakewood (Woodrow); and Division 5 East Dallas (Bryan Adams). The school is represented close to equally by each division.

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Old 03-19-2013, 08:49 AM
 
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Good Lord this thread reminds me of Nursery University.
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Old 03-19-2013, 09:14 AM
 
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I was pretty sure you lived in DISD and was surprised to see your statement...it's basically an interview. It's like Yale, the want a certain cutoff score, but that's not what it's about. It's about the intangible quality of who "fits". It's a hippie learning model and appeals to families that don't want to teach to the test. They still take all the standardized tests, but there's little to no prep for it. One day the test just shows up and the kids take it. They sit on carpet squares, play with abacuses, etc.

And DISD has 5 divisions. None of the divisions are geographic. So in Division 1 the bulk of your interested families are coming from Kessler Park (Sunset) and Preston Hollow (TJ); Division 2 from North Dallas (W.T. White); Division 3 from Uptown (North Dallas) and Preston Hollow (Hillcrest); Division 4 from Lakewood (Woodrow); and Division 5 East Dallas (Bryan Adams). The school is represented close to equally by each division.
I am familiar with the learning system, my oldest went to St. Alcuin (which is down the street from Dealey). St Alcuin uses the same teaching methods (I would not call it a hippie learning model, but I get your point). It certainly is not the right system for every child.

I was not familiar with how they determine admissions. Thank you for your insight.
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Old 03-19-2013, 07:22 PM
 
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Old 03-19-2013, 07:30 PM
 
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Good Lord this thread reminds me of Nursery University.
Except the adults are wearing the diapers..

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@Hockdad- I have a cousin who likes to say how much she hates the word diversity. Her reason? Because we're all just the same. And because everyone wants "the best" on their surgical team, not "the most diverse." She also hates quotas and had a black professor she liked once. So she's not a racist. Everyone around her is like, "..."
Its a fact that kids who are admitted for diversity reasons and not for ability are at a much greater risk for dropping out and not finishing school and/or college. The real damage is not to the higher qualified kids, but to those who would have done better in a less demanding program.

I think your example about A doctor is not funny. My former fiance' IS the best surgeon in her hospital and she happens to be black and has zero tolerance for "diversity." She cannot come out and say it in public most of the time because of the PC attitudes in her state. She counsels many of the kids she lectures to be realistic about their goals and set ones that they can achieve rather than let others talk them into something they cannot afford or which are beyond their commitment levels.

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It's a hippie learning model and appeals to families that don't want to teach to the test. They still take all the standardized tests, but there's little to no prep for it. One day the test just shows up and the kids take it. They sit on carpet squares, play with abacuses, etc.
Maria Montessori would be surprised to learn that she is a hippie. She was not and the Montessori Method is most certainly not hippie.

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Old 03-20-2013, 02:48 PM
 
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Here is how DISD accepts applicants into any of their magnet schools. This is not unique to Dealey, but for all magnets in the district. Basically, the top 30% of any of the open spots will be filled with the absolute top scores regardless of which Division they are applying from. The remaining 70% of spots are filled equally from each Division, but the top scores are ranked higher.

"Selection Process

The number of seats available for each magnet program will be identified before the application process begins.

Seats will be awarded based on the following formula:

30 percent of the seats awarded districtwide by rank-ordering of applicants based on overall criteria score
70 percent of the seats awarded within each Division (adjusted proportionally for student population) by rank-ordering of applicants based on overall criteria score
Qualified applicants who are not selected due to limited space will be placed on a rank-ordered waiting list. Applications will remain active until the beginning of the second six weeks of the fall semester and student vacancies will be filled until that time."
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Old 03-20-2013, 04:55 PM
 
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Dealey isn't a TAG school, it's a Montessori. The school doesn't exist as to be a meritocratic filter. The test is to ensure the applicant can do the work, not to secure admission. It's an "alternative" learning environment. It is not the place for your paleo-conservative rants on race.
OMG! Anything to make sure actual merit and talent are minimized. No wonder much of the world is kicking our butts academically.
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Old 03-20-2013, 04:59 PM
 
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OMG! Anything to make sure actual merit and talent are minimized. No wonder much of the world is kicking our butts academically.
??? There are TAG programs, but this isn't one of them. What's your point?
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Old 03-20-2013, 05:11 PM
 
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??? There are TAG programs, but this isn't one of them. What's your point?
Merit should trump all else in these situations. My son was recently accepted into a few medical schools. We play these games even then. Ill post more about this after he commits. It's just shocking.
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