03-12-2012, 01:14 PM
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Have you considered moving to North Irving/ Las Colinas. Los Colinas Elementary has an IB program. And the commute to North Grand Prairie wouldn't take anymore than an hour at rush hour. The Kessler Park neighborhood is pretty good, but with the construction taking place on IH30 it'd be best to visit the area to see if that would be an ideal commute for you.
03-12-2012, 01:49 PM
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I would not really want to discourage you from moving to Lakewood, because of course I think it is the most wonderful place on the planet - but if you did live in North Oak Cliff you can apply to Woodrow for IB - it's a little muddier what the process will be for IB MYP at J. L. Long - I know there are many transfers to Long but I am not sure about the particulars. There are good-sized groups from Hexter and Sanger (not in the feeder pattern) at Long. Hexter's mascot was even at the annual Long Run.
I think her kiddo is only 4 so hopefully the Long/Woodrow mud would be sorted out before having to deal with it.
03-16-2012, 09:27 AM
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Many people really like Colleyville and Southlake, and there is a sense of community there just like in more urban areas. Both suburbs are very pretty and have lots of green space, etc. The commute time to Grand Prairie would be significantly less from these towns. In the long run, I would think being able to have your husband at home more hours of the day, instead of him stuck in traffic, would be a real benefit.
ChristieP, our budget for housing is 400-500K so we could live in any area (Lakewood, M Streets, Colleyville, Soutlake) with varying degrees of comfort. The thing we're trying to determine is where will we be happiest given the commute, the schools and the social life. Unfortunately, there's not one neighborhood that fits that bill easily.
03-16-2012, 09:28 AM
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rent in the Bishop Arts district/ North Oak Cliff area for a while and keep try to get your child into the North Hills Charter school. You never know, you may be one of the lucky ones! Check out the Uplift Charter schools.
Irving / North Hills Prep
We definitely looked at North Oak Cliff - and liked it a lot - but I don't really want to gamble with the education component.
03-16-2012, 09:31 AM
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Where in Austin did you live or did you want to live? When you say Austin we most likley picture Sixth Street and will tell you to move to Greenville Avenue. But you could very well be coming from Round Rock and would fit in better in Flower Mound.
We live in the relatively new Mueller development, 5 miles north of the city. It's a great, lively, close-to-the-city neighborhood that's also challenged in terms of middle and high schools. We were planning to send our little one to private school before the Dallas opportunity came up. Lakewood/M Streets is likely the right area for us given what we're familiar with in ATX, but I can't shake the idea that a shorter commute and fantastic public schools in Tarrant County would be easier/better.
03-16-2012, 09:33 AM
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I would not really want to discourage you from moving to Lakewood, because of course I think it is the most wonderful place on the planet - but if you did live in North Oak Cliff you can apply to Woodrow for IB - it's a little muddier what the process will be for IB MYP at J. L. Long - I know there are many transfers to Long but I am not sure about the particulars. There are good-sized groups from Hexter and Sanger (not in the feeder pattern) at Long. Hexter's mascot was even at the annual Long Run.
Thanks,Lakewooder. I love reading all of your posts throughout the forum. Part of what I love about the Lakewood area is the passion and support of its residents!
03-16-2012, 09:38 AM
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JennifW, I think I read that your children are in private school? (It's so strange how much everyone knows about others' lives on this forum, but oh well!) Are they in school in North Dallas or closer to Lakewood? I'd consider private school but driving to and from every day may be a bit tough for me because I work full-time. I work from home and have flexibility, but I also travel occasionally so wouldn't be able to drop-off/pick-up every day. That's actually the primary reason we wouldn't consider private school vs. the expense. Wherever we move, I'd like to be within walking distance of an elementary school so that someone can easily pick up my son and bring him back to our house. I'm less ok with a nanny driving to pick him up every day.
03-16-2012, 09:39 AM
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All, thanks so much for your insight! I'm grateful for the Dallas forum in general - there's so much good info here for a newbie!
03-16-2012, 11:14 AM
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We definitely looked at North Oak Cliff - and liked it a lot - but I don't really want to gamble with the education component.
How old are your kids? If they're young, Rosemont Elem in NOC is every bit as good as Lakewood Elem or Stonewall Jackson in East Dallas. You'd have 5-10 years to figure out a middle school game plan (private, charter, magnet, etc). If they're already in elementary, of course, that changes things.
03-16-2012, 11:58 AM
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While I do engage in passionate hyperbole, my info is very up-to-date and as accurate as I can make it I am afraid some others here do not have the same experiences or are privy to such...if you would like a good look I would suggest you visit - two good opportunities coming up:
Lakewood News - Woodrow to host International Dignitaries at Symposium - Lakewood BubbleLife - The Online Home for Lakewood - Lakewood, Texas
White Rock Lake Weekly - Millie headed for Woodrow stage
Others really think of it as a "situation" - the fact that the 'smart' and 'affluent' kids from Lakewood and Stonewall attend middle and high school with some very poor (mostly 'minority') kids, many of whom are intelligent but haven't had the same background and opportunities. Some take advantage of what is offered at Long and Woodrow and some don't. But they have a wonderful chance that many others in similar circumstances do not. Even if they do not 'get' a good education at our schools we are stilll friends and that carries through life. I think that is a wonderful thing that you cannot quantify with numbers - something that outsiders have difficulty understanding.
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Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)
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