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Old 06-16-2018, 12:45 AM
 
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I hope Harvard is crushed by that lawsuit. It should be forced by court order to publish past admit vs. non-admit decision metrics going back decades.

Harvard is now doing to Asian extraction students precisely what it did to jewish students in the early to middle 1900s.
It's also doing the same thing to white (non-Jewish) students (who are underrepresented by 60%), but apparently whites have no rights and no one cares.

 
Old 06-16-2018, 10:11 AM
 
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It's also doing the same thing to white (non-Jewish) students (who are underrepresented by 60%), but apparently whites have no rights and no one cares.
Maybe. Harvard's discrimination against Asian extraction students is obvious. Sadly it may well be legal as those of Asian extraction are at once a numerical minority but not an underrepresented minority within education broadly.
 
Old 06-16-2018, 11:03 AM
 
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That depends on how you define "underrepresented".
 
Old 06-16-2018, 03:51 PM
 
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How are white students discriminated against at Harvard? Due to preferences for Hispanic and African-Americans? Seems balanced by discrimination against Asian-Americans.
 
Old 06-16-2018, 05:45 PM
 
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You can read the arguments in the case here:

https://int.nyt.com/data/documenthel...ull.pdf#page=1
 
Old 06-17-2018, 01:09 PM
 
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How are white students discriminated against at Harvard? Due to preferences for Hispanic and African-Americans? Seems balanced by discrimination against Asian-Americans.
Whites are 25% of the student body and 55% of the relevant age cohort and 50%-60% of those who be admitted if admissions were based solely on academic credentials. So, no, it is not balanced.

Blacks and Hispanics are vastly overrepresented compared to their academic credentials, and Asians and Jews are vastly overrepresented compared to their share of the population. Both of these types of overrepresentation are taken out of the white share, with the result that whites are vastly underrepresented compared to their academic credentials and compared to their share of the population in the relevant age range. It's almost as if it were designed to have this result.
 
Old 06-18-2018, 10:22 AM
 
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hbdwindh378y9 - where are you are getting your data especially 25% of student body is white?

You can see the comparison on page 11:

http://samv91khoyt2i553a2t1s05i-wpen...ort-of-MSJ.pdf

Based on academic only, whites are still over-represented (for Whites: 43% actual vs 38% based on academic vs 44% based on demographics of applicants).

However, use of qualitative "Personal" factors / legacy /sports, the white cohort is increased significantly. Bias in "Personal" assessment done by admission officers keeps the Asian admits limited in spite of their academic/extra curricular achievements.
 
Old 06-18-2018, 01:23 PM
 
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Given the high success of Asian-American students when only considering academics, no wonder the % Asian at UT-Austin has grown under the Top 6-10% rule. Then even more get in when considering a mix of rank and test scores.


On page 34, you can see that 48%-53% of the last four Harvard admitted classes have been white. Maybe the white yield is lower than other ethnicities.

Last edited by Taub201; 06-18-2018 at 01:40 PM..
 
Old 06-18-2018, 03:16 PM
 
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The problem with Ivies is that they don’t want to admit there is a racial quota system, so they have to make up excuses (meaning to create racial stereotypes) to justify themselves.
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Harvard consistently rated Asian-American applicants lower than others on traits like “positive personality,” likability, courage, kindness and being “widely respected,”
Over the time the admissions officials get so accustomed to the racism practice that it almost becomes a knee jerk reflex.
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Alumni interviewers give Asian-Americans personal ratings comparable to those of whites. But the admissions office gives them the worst scores of any racial group, often without even meeting them.
Finally tolerant liberals goes full nazi,
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The plaintiffs’ papers appeared to offer other examples of grudging or derogatory descriptions of Asian applications, but they had been redacted.
and practice Neo Nuremberg Laws to determine what kind of mixed race could have Reich Citizenship.
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Princeton admissions officers only mention Asian applicants’ “background as a positive” when they are a “neat blend,” or part Black or Hispanic, or that Asian profiles are often dismissed for being “…like many others” or “difficult to pluck out”—even as they are thoroughly impressive
 
Old 06-18-2018, 05:59 PM
 
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Perhaps posters would be more willing to listen to your arguments if you weren't drawing a parallel between the Third Reich and Harvard. That's extremely inflammatory. While I'm no expert, I did study the rise of the Third Reich in college and I strongly disagree with your rhetoric.
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