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Old 11-30-2012, 07:51 AM
 
Location: Dallas,Texas
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The Full Article: City, AT&T, SMU plan championship golf complex in southern Dallas | Dallas-Fort Worth Golf News - Sports News for Dallas, Texas - SportsDayDFW

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The city of Dallas, in partnership with AT&T and Southern Methodist University, is planning the development of a 400-acre championship golf complex in the heart of southern Dallas.
The deal, to be announced at a news conference Friday morning, is proposed as a major boost to the city’s southern side and could bring golf events to Dallas, including major championships and the HP Byron Nelson Championship, Mayor Mike Rawlings said.
“There’s a huge sports component of this, not unlike moving Rangers Stadium or Cowboys Stadium to Dallas,” he said. “We will have a first-class, world-championship golf course.”
If completed as envisioned, the complex will include an 18-hole, semi-private championship course, a nine-hole beginner’s course, a practice facility and a clubhouse built on old landfill property just east of Interstate 45 along Loop 12. Plans call for work to start next spring, with the main course ready for play in spring 2016.
SMU would use the course as an anchor facility for its golf program, and the nine-hole course would be for the use of The First Tee, an organization dedicated to introducing golf to young people, including disadvantaged kids.
Dallas residents will have limited access to the championship course, Rawlings said. The course will largely be for the private use of its members.
Rawlings described the deal as akin to the city’s investment in restoring privately owned buildings downtown.
The courses, practice facilities, clubhouse and other golf elements will be funded by a private, nonprofit entity that will include AT&T, representatives from SMU and other civic and business partners, Rawlings said.
Under a deal that will go before the City Council on Dec. 12, that nonprofit will be required to invest a minimum of $20 million in the course and facilities. The final development price could be $50 million or more. Those funds will be raised through investors and the sale of memberships in the club.
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Old 11-30-2012, 08:08 AM
 
Location: Aurora, CO
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"...and over here on the 11th fairway is a spot that was once a popular place to cultivate clandestine marijuana crops..."
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Old 11-30-2012, 10:09 AM
 
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That is not a forest. Is grown over farmland - and mostly monoculture stands of scrub trees like hackberry and elm with little in the way for food for wildlife. It will all start falling down in 30 years and it will be a big mess.

Had someone gone in and planted it to oaks, walnuts, and sycamores, then in 200 years we'd have something spectacular. I don't know why this is not done today. A few chain saws and a few thousand seedlings a year.
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Old 11-30-2012, 10:21 AM
 
Location: Dallas,Texas
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That is not a forest. Is grown over farmland - and mostly monoculture stands of scrub trees like hackberry and elm with little in the way for food for wildlife. It will all start falling down in 30 years and it will be a big mess.

Had someone gone in and planted it to oaks, walnuts, and sycamores, then in 200 years we'd have something spectacular. I don't know why this is not done today. A few chain saws and a few thousand seedlings a year.
It is a forest, I've actually been there. There's all kinds of animals there too.
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Old 11-30-2012, 10:35 AM
 
Location: plano
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We have too many golf courses all over the country including DFW now. The economics wont work or support the upkeep cost much less a return on the cost of construction etc. It would pull some golfers from the rest of DFW to South Dallas which would be a good economic benefit and jobs for that part of the metroplex. South Dallas reminds me of east Houston that is not much housing or residential population for the size of the area but at least Houston has great refinery/chem plant jobs. I think Dallas would benefit from developing South Dallas since the commutes to DT etc arent bad given the slower growth in tbat corridor vs North and some other directions.
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Old 11-30-2012, 10:57 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Two words. Water usage. The costs and use rate of water to establish and maintain a NEW PGA course would be immense on the areas already scarce resources.

Coming from a golfer who loves new courses and plays at least 50-60 times/year. This is not a good idea or option for land/resource or use/conservation.
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Old 11-30-2012, 11:03 AM
 
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DFW has too many goof courses, and I'm a goofer. I liked how they said "this will help develop the surrounding area". Ok so maybe the members will drive their Lexus LS460 to get gas then leave the area as soon as possible. Or maybe they'll drive on fumes to get the hell outta there.

Lipstick on a pig.
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Old 11-30-2012, 11:08 AM
 
Location: DFW
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While this course sounds great, I can't help but question the talk of luring the Nelson away from the Four Seasons. The Nelson is already having trouble getting golfers to the tournament. Plucking the golfers away from the five diamond resort where they sleep a 5 minute drive from the first tee and putting them on a course in South Dallas is a sure fire way to drive the Nelson further toward irrelevance.
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Old 11-30-2012, 11:24 AM
 
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While this course sounds great, I can't help but question the talk of luring the Nelson away from the Four Seasons. The Nelson is already having trouble getting golfers to the tournament. Plucking the golfers away from the five diamond resort where they sleep a 5 minute drive from the first tee and putting them on a course in South Dallas is a sure fire way to drive the Nelson further toward irrelevance.
Good point, jbb. Of course, the pros get courtesy cars so they can head on out to the Anatole or the Omni. Wonder if the grounds can handle little pesky things like thousands of fans, concessions, parking, party tent, volunteers, et al.
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Old 11-30-2012, 09:40 PM
 
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That is not a forest. Is grown over farmland - and mostly monoculture stands of scrub trees like hackberry and elm with little in the way for food for wildlife. It will all start falling down in 30 years and it will be a big mess.

Had someone gone in and planted it to oaks, walnuts, and sycamores, then in 200 years we'd have something spectacular. I don't know why this is not done today. A few chain saws and a few thousand seedlings a year.
Errr what?
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