Lovejoy ISD, McKinney ISD or Frisco ISD? (Dallas, Austin: for sale, apartments)

[TurtleCreek80]

Originally Posted by CREW747

Question....After the top districts of Highland Park,Southlake,Parts of Plano ISD,Coppell and Flower Mound (part of Lewisville ISD) what comes next? Frisco,Love Joy,Prosper Allen.Grapevine/colleyville.

Mmm....According to the best indicator for college readiness (SAT scores), the districts and/or schools directly under the "big 5" you listed are actually, in order:

Parts of Richardson ISD (JJ Pearce) * actually, this one belongs in "big 5" as it's SAT is 1 point less than Flower Mound

Colleyville
Argyle
Allen (I will give you this one as being in the academic tier sitting under the top 5)
Lovejoy
Grapevine

With SAT scores clustered between 1096-1101, these schools clearly all swim in the same pack. They sit about 15 points below Plano East / Flower Mound and 15 points ahead of the highest scoring Frisco high school.

The next "cluster" of schools is the better Frisco schools (Centennial & Frisco HS), Keller, McKinney North only, Rockwall, the rest of Lewisville ISD, the top Arlington ISD HS.

THEN, below that is the rest of McKinney, the rest of Frisco, Prosper, and the top Garland HS.

Other than Allen and Lovejoy, can't consider the other districts you mentioned as academically "sought after". Maybe sought after due to tremendous amounts of young families, but not for educational quality or results.

[CREW747]

Originally Posted by TurtleCreek80

Mmm....According to the best indicator for college readiness (SAT scores), the districts and/or schools directly under the "big 5" you listed are actually, in order:

Parts of Richardson ISD (JJ Pearce) * actually, this one belongs in "big 5" as it's SAT is 1 point less than Flower Mound

Colleyville
Argyle
Allen (I will give you this one as being in the academic tier sitting under the top 5)
Lovejoy
Grapevine

With SAT scores clustered between 1096-1101, these schools clearly all swim in the same pack. They sit about 15 points below Plano East / Flower Mound and 15 points ahead of the highest scoring Frisco high school.

The next "cluster" of schools is the better Frisco schools (Centennial & Frisco HS), Keller, McKinney North only, Rockwall, the rest of Lewisville ISD, the top Arlington ISD HS.

THEN, below that is the rest of McKinney, the rest of Frisco, Prosper, and the top Garland HS.

Other than Allen and Lovejoy, can't consider the other districts you mentioned as academically "sought after". Maybe sought after due to tremendous amounts of young families, but not for educational quality or results.

The sought after term is a matter of opinion to a certain extent.I think some people will agree with me and some people will not.Time will tell how growing districts like Prosper,Frisco and Love Joy will rank in the future.The demographic being there is a fact in all 3 suburbs.

[GripeWater]

If its a prediction then yeah it has as much chance of happening as of not happening. For all we know, diminishing water resources and skyrocketing fuel prices may kill those far flung areas, who would want to spend hours in clogged traffic burning dollars in fuel and toll so they can get to their acre lot and spend more money on precious clean water on grass that could be feeding humans, animals and farms. I think sought after are the schools that top the academic achievement lists and make people spend high $/per square feet.

[BiGeek]

Originally Posted by GripeWater

If its a prediction then yeah it has as much chance of happening as of not happening. For all we know, diminishing water resources and skyrocketing fuel prices may kill those far flung areas, who would want to spend hours in clogged traffic burning dollars in fuel and toll so they can get to their acre lot and spend more money on precious clean water on grass that could be feeding humans, animals and farms. I think sought after are the schools that top the academic achievement lists and make people spend high $/per square feet.

Spot on!

[frenzyrider]

True... Who knows whether zombies will come running out of those far flung areas or those in Frisco and beyond will be subjected to Hunger games... But one thing we know is "God's own country" Plano will be the beacon of prosperity and where kids will take birth speaking the 3 letters "SAT" or 4 letters "NMSF"

Got it!!!

[DitsyD]

Originally Posted by GripeWater

If its a prediction then yeah it has as much chance of happening as of not happening. For all we know, diminishing water resources and skyrocketing fuel prices may kill those far flung areas, who would want to spend hours in clogged traffic burning dollars in fuel and toll so they can get to their acre lot and spend more money on precious clean water on grass that could be feeding humans, animals and farms. I think sought after are the schools that top the academic achievement lists and make people spend high $/per square feet.

I agree. The most sought after school districts/schools demand the higher $/sq. ft. housing prices for that reason. If they are wanting more land and/or more house for their dollar, then those people are the ones satisfied with a lower tier school to go with that newer/bigger house.

School rankings might change in the future, but for now, Frisco, Allen, Lovejoy, McKinney, etc. are second tier in this market and the housing prices reflect that. Don't believe me? Compare Park Cities and West Plano prices to Allen or McKinney prices. Compare Park Cities and West Plano shopping to Allen and McKinney shopping.

[txgolfer130]

Originally Posted by DitsyD

I agree. The most sought after school districts/schools demand the higher $/sq. ft. housing prices for that reason. If they are wanting more land and/or more house for their dollar, then those people are the ones satisfied with a lower tier school to go with that newer/bigger house.

School rankings might change in the future, but for now, Frisco, Allen, Lovejoy, McKinney, etc. are second tier in this market and the housing prices reflect that. Don't believe me? Compare Park Cities and West Plano prices to Allen or McKinney prices. Compare Park Cities and West Plano shopping to Allen and McKinney shopping.

Attempting to correlate a closer in location to a major metro center vs. a suburb is no where near being a correct or fair comparison. It is all about location, location, location...however this isn't what the OP was asking about re: schools & ISD's. A close-in location will ALMOST always have a higher housing price effect vs. a suburb. I say always, because you compare Westlake/Southlake to Park Cities/W. Plano and they don't compare, but like your attempt it isn't a direct correlation or comparison.

[DitsyD]

Originally Posted by txgolfer130

Attempting to correlate a closer in location to a major metro center vs. a suburb is no where near being a correct or fair comparison. It is all about location, location, location...however this isn't what the OP was asking about re: schools & ISD's. A close-in location will ALMOST always have a higher housing price effect vs. a suburb. I say always, because you compare Westlake/Southlake to Park Cities/W. Plano and they don't compare, but like your attempt it isn't a direct correlation or comparison.

Plano IS a suburb.

Location also has to do with the schools within that location. West Plano would not demand the price simply because it is north of Dallas if it did not have the excellent schools. The homes around the Park Cities don't demand the same price, even though they are of an equivalent location, because they don't have the excellent schools, they have DISD.

[Funtastic44]

Originally Posted by DitsyD

Plano IS a suburb.

Location also has to do with the schools within that location. West Plano would not demand the price simply because it is north of Dallas if it did not have the excellent schools. The homes around the Park Cities don't demand the same price, even though they are of an equivalent location, because they don't have the excellent schools, they have DISD.

Well said!

[GripeWater]

Originally Posted by DitsyD

Plano IS a suburb.

Location also has to do with the schools within that location. West Plano would not demand the price simply because it is north of Dallas if it did not have the excellent schools. The homes around the Park Cities don't demand the same price, even though they are of an equivalent location, because they don't have the excellent schools, they have DISD.

I agree completely. When people want to convince themselves then they find all excuses that they can.