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Old 09-16-2013, 12:32 PM
 
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If I end up staying in Dallas for the long-term I'd like to look for a home in Richardson, too. Driving from the Uptown area to UTD is about a 20-25 min drive (well, depending on how many wrecks there are on 75), public transportation seems to be decent, and while its a suburb you're still close enough to downtown if you need to go down there. Diversity due to proximity to the college is a plus, too.

Apparently its also the inspiration for the town of Arlen from King of the Hill too, so, there's that.
I thought Arlen was based on Garland...
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Old 09-16-2013, 12:41 PM
 
Location: Irving, TX
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I don't think it's the end yet, but cities in DFW need to learn it's unsustainable, they simply can't afford to keep letting it go on.

I'd love to see research done on how much sprawl is costing local tax payers, Austin recently had one done. Here's a good article on the cost of sprawl.
Quantifying the Cost of Sprawl - Emily Badger - The Atlantic Cities
While I'm sure I will draw the ire of the Dense Living Cultists, living in urban environments also has costs, and steep ones.
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Old 09-16-2013, 12:43 PM
 
Location: North Texas
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I thought Arlen was based on Garland...

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I don't think Richardson is anything like King of the Hill.
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Old 09-16-2013, 12:53 PM
 
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I don't think Richardson is anything like King of the Hill.


It's not now. Mike Judge's experiences are from decades ago when these suburbs were much smaller.
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Old 09-16-2013, 12:58 PM
 
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I lived in the UK for a while and I like how a lot of their towns and villages are set up. It's not urban, but it's more walkable than Texas cities and there's not tons of space wasted on huge parking lots, 8 lane roads and freeways, oversized lots, etc.

Most people live in duplexes or rowhouses with smaller yards. There is commercial property such as grocery stores, pubs, churches, and restaurants that blends in seamlessly with residential property -- meaning there aren't a bunch of isolated subdivisions far out to where you need a car just to get in and out of your neighborhood to get anything.

I much prefer this style of development over what we do here in Texas and the southern United States. People don't need to live in skyscraper/highrises and lofts for an area to be sustainable and walkable.
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Old 09-16-2013, 01:15 PM
 
Location: North Texas
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It's not now. Mike Judge's experiences are from decades ago when these suburbs were much smaller.
I remember Richardson in the 80s and it wasn't anything like that then, either. Maybe it was like that in the 50s-60s.
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Old 09-16-2013, 02:44 PM
 
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There were parts of Richardson in the 80's and even early 90's that felt like that, but even Plano had some areas that were the same too.
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Old 09-16-2013, 02:48 PM
 
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“Moderate-income families have seen their transportation costs balloon to more than a quarter*of their income.”

I haven’t. And to buy a house in the city in a safe neighbourhood with good schools? That would cost waaaaay more than in the suburbs. People live in the suburbs precisely BECAUSE the suburbs are more affordable (read "sustainable" for the person of moderate income) than living in the city. Unless equal quality (in terms of size, schools, and crime) city living suddenly becomes a hell of a lot cheaper, "suburban sprawl" will continue.
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Old 09-17-2013, 02:54 AM
 
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I don't think it's the end yet, but cities in DFW need to learn it's unsustainable, they simply can't afford to keep letting it go on.


I'd love to see research done on how much sprawl is costing local tax payers, Austin recently had one done. Here's a good article on the cost of sprawl.
Quantifying the Cost of Sprawl - Emily Badger - The Atlantic Cities
I disagree on both counts.

Suburbs are more sustainable than core cities. Just look at the corruption level and higher taxes of the latter. That simple measure alone shows that core cities are not sustainable.
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Old 09-17-2013, 03:37 AM
 
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I disagree on both counts.

Suburbs are more sustainable than core cities. Just look at the corruption level and higher taxes of the latter. That simple measure alone shows that core cities are not sustainable.
Look at the inner ring suburbs around the country, while cities are thriving right now.
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