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Old 09-19-2013, 11:25 AM
 
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Tell me about it? Dorm life? English department? Journalism? Theater Arts and Voice? My kid loves JAZZ and plays guitar, she has a jazz voice. Some schools are built on a foundation in the classic genre and frown upon jazz or anything that would be considered popish. We love and appreciate many genres but know that her voice is for jazz. Is there a place for her at UNT with her voice if she chooses to minor in it? Any sort of Jazz vocal classes? Also my kid has written and self published 2 books, the first very young, the second just recently and very proud of her accomplishment.
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Old 09-20-2013, 09:39 AM
 
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UNT is THE place for musicians. World-class music program. Google the One O'Clock Jazz Band. Your kid needs to live in Bruce Hall. She will love it.
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Old 09-20-2013, 11:22 AM
 
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Tell me about it? Dorm life? English department? Journalism? Theater Arts and Voice? My kid loves JAZZ and plays guitar, she has a jazz voice. Some schools are built on a foundation in the classic genre and frown upon jazz or anything that would be considered popish. We love and appreciate many genres but know that her voice is for jazz. Is there a place for her at UNT with her voice if she chooses to minor in it? Any sort of Jazz vocal classes? Also my kid has written and self published 2 books, the first very young, the second just recently and very proud of her accomplishment.

there are some specific issues with what you are asking and now is the time when you as a parent need to stop with the "channeling their appreciation for all things everything" and help your child develop a focus on what is going to be most important to them in the long run

Dorm life will be like dorm life at any campus where there are a large number of students from the close by metro area that can frequently go home on the weekends.....there is a shortage of dorms, but they are working to build more, but it will probably be on the order of 2-3 years before that gets done and be advised they are looking to raise the prices on ALL dorms to be able to build the new dorms

here is a link that outlines what I stated

Regents approve housing plans | Denton Record Chronicle | News for Denton County, Texas - Denton Record-Chronicle

To help fund the project, Andrew Harris, vice president for finance and administration, estimated that room rates for students would need to increase 8 percent to 9 percent each year for several years.

so in short there are places where "dorm life" will be more like "college life" than north Texas

it should also be noted that The State of Texas does not allocate money to build any dorms or student housing at any state campus which is why that increase is needed and it should also be noted that tuition revenue bonds were not passed this last legislative session so some or all of the other building projects listed in that article may or may not be built in the near future....it should also be noted from that article the discussion about the bond rating drop which can only drop one level from the current AAA to AAA- before there becomes an "issue" that is outside the scope of this discussion......but what is important is that if some of those other projects go ahead and there is pressure on the bond ratings that would most likely mean the possible 8-9% increase yearly in dorm cost would go higher than 8-9% yearly


next the English and Journalism programs are really nothing to write home about UT would be a much better choice for both of those programs and depending on what subset of English there could be other better choices like Texas State for Creative Writing or Texas Tech, Rice, UH or Baylor for other areas

as for Journalism if not UT you would probably be better off going out of state to Missouri or Kansas or even OU, KSU or OkState and all of those schools listed heavily recruit Texas students with strong metrics usually with at least an out of state tuition waver

now for the part where you as a parent really need to help your child make a decision and focus on what is important and you as a parent need to help them wade through what is important and what is meaningful VS hype

for English and Journalism the reality is outside of a few very strong programs (some of the ones listed above and others further from Texas) rankings of a program are really not going to help much if a student is not motivated and dedicated to doing what is necessary to differentiate themselves from the hundreds or even thousand+ other students in that same major......since your child has published two books I would say they have that ability to do so.....that is what will really help a student in those types of fields of study turn a degree into a career VS a piece of paper from a ranked or respected or an un-ranked and unknown program

next as for the Jazz Studies specifically......first off north Texas is not "all things music" it is not all things music in the USA for sure and it is not even all things music in Texas.....UT, Rice and TCU have subsets of music that would be as respected if not more respected than north Texas at their universities and some of them north Texas might not even offer.....north Texas for a college of music is actually pretty limited in their overall offerings and this has helped them excel in those areas they do offer, but they are in no way as broad as a large number of music programs in the USA

Jazz Studies does happen to be one of the fields they have been a leader in.....but there is one critical point that you as a parent will need to thoroughly investigate....you specifically mentioned a MINOR in Jazz Studies.......well the reality is at north Texas the music minor options are very limited and not broad at all and are only really a specific subset of classes open to non-music majors that meet the university core curriculum

if one clicks on this link

UNT College of Music :: Student Advising

they will see on the upper right hand side in the list of "quick links" the "music as a minor" link that I have posted below

music.unt.edu/advising/documents/musicAsAFirstMinor.pdf

and when you click on this link above you will see there are specifically no Jazz Studies classes listed under any of those classes

and down below where there is a minor in music without audition there are specific classes listed which are music theory classes and piano and music history and then 4 hours of your choice (possibly to include a Jazz class or possibly not including one you will need to check)

I am not 100% positive that Jazz Studies is not offered as a minor or that the bulk of (if not all of) the Jazz classes are closed to non-majors, but I am about 75% sure this is the case and the link above seems to support that

the link does specifically state that Ensembles are open to all that audition, but those auditions are going to be very competitive especially in Jazz Studies and thus as something being taken for fun or that does not even lead to a minor much less a major it will be a lot of time spent on something that is just an "interest" VS a career choice or a major

so again I am not 100% sure that the vast majority of Jazz Studies classes if not all of them are closed to non-majors, but you as a parent will certainly want to investigate this further before you help your child choose a university based on a minor VS a major only to find that the majority of the classes in that minor are closed to non-majors or are of no interest to your child because they are not in the subset of music your child is interested in.....all the worse when there would be mush better choices available for the listed major interest and those choices more than likely do have some Jazz or Vocal classes open to non-majors

so again you have decisions to make, a great deal of questions to look into and a lot of research to do to be sure that you do not fall into the trap of "this place is all things everything for that" because that is certainly not true and even more so it is not meaningful if some place is "all things that" when those things are not actually available except to a select few......and yes there is a chance that with an audition and an exceptional performance in that audition that accommodations could be made, but that will not happen without a great deal of effort and investigation

so if the Jazz Studies in as important as the other major interest you need to really be on top of what it will take to make that happen
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