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Old 01-11-2015, 07:23 PM
 
Location: Texas
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I am fundamentally opposed to toll roads. If I wanted to take roads, I'd live in the Northeast. Part of living in a Western state should be no toll roads.

Once when visiting California, I took a toll road to save time and avoid the nightmare that is the 405. Dallas' 635 gives the 405 in LA a run for its money in traffic hellaciousness, but I think the 405 is worse.
In PA, your taxes pay for toll roads, and your toll pays for toll roads.

Not sure if it's the same here in Texas, I recall someone saying that the tolls pay for the NTTA to maintain itself, but I'm not sure how true that is. Surely there's some government/tax funding?
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Old 01-11-2015, 07:27 PM
 
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In PA, your taxes pay for toll roads, and your toll pays for toll roads.

Not sure if it's the same here in Texas, I recall someone saying that the tolls pay for the NTTA to maintain itself, but I'm not sure how true that is. Surely there's some government/tax funding?
I feel like I pay enough in automobile and transportation costs between gas, insurance, and repairs. That stuff is unavoidable to an extent. I can plan my life so that I do not have to take toll roads. Occasionally, something comes up where taking a toll road might be beneficial, but it isn't worth it to me. I've lived here for years and not taken a toll road once.
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Old 01-11-2015, 07:44 PM
 
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I take toll roads relatively often depending on the job I'm working. If it's takes an hour on a toll road, it can take me significantly longer to try to go around the toll road.

I've been fortunate to avoid SRT, PGBT, and the DNT for the past 6 months, but I spent a year before that taking one or two of those daily.
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Old 01-12-2015, 01:31 AM
 
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I don't get why people buy in far flung areas and then instead of using toll roads, they crowd internal roads to save toll. There should be some sort of toll charged for that which can be used for upkeep of these roads, pollution control, police or that city for their inconvenience. I live near Preston and Park and hate how commuters from other towns use our roads to cut down on their long commutes and toll expenses while increasing traffic, pollution, commute time, chances of accidents, road wear and tear and crowding for people in our town.

I hate how internet users from adjacent towns use my town's internet lines to cut down on their long download time and network expenses while increasing traffic, errors, download time, chances of collisions, network wear and tear and digital crowding for people in our town. Then they complain that it's too expensive and not fast enough!

I was born here, and I pay a premium rate for my internet service, so I should have the fastest throughput of all. Those other guys are just hitching a lower cost ride on my internet cable! There should be a per-byte toll for upkeep of network components, spam control, and network police.

And the same goes for water, sewer, gas and electric transmission! Those other guys are getting a discount at my expense!


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Old 01-12-2015, 07:39 AM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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Am I the only one that sometimes will take Preston from the 635 area rather than the tollway because I just enjoy the drive and scenery better? Even the stop lights? It's just more relaxing to me sometimes then going 80mph on the tollway with other race car drivers.
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Old 01-12-2015, 08:14 AM
 
Location: Southlake. Don't judge me.
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I hate how internet users from adjacent towns use my town's internet lines to cut down on their long download time and network expenses while increasing traffic, errors, download time, chances of collisions, network wear and tear and digital crowding for people in our town. Then they complain that it's too expensive and not fast enough!

I was born here, and I pay a premium rate for my internet service, so I should have the fastest throughput of all. Those other guys are just hitching a lower cost ride on my internet cable! There should be a per-byte toll for upkeep of network components, spam control, and network police.

And the same goes for water, sewer, gas and electric transmission! Those other guys are getting a discount at my expense!

MY trees are creating excess oxygen that YOU concrete-surrounded city-dwellers BREATHE! Go make YOUR OWN d*mn oxygen!

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Old 01-12-2015, 10:06 AM
 
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Am I the only one that sometimes will take Preston from the 635 area rather than the tollway because I just enjoy the drive and scenery better? Even the stop lights? It's just more relaxing to me sometimes then going 80mph on the tollway with other race car drivers.
I commute to Plano daily so I only take Preston if there is a MAJOR wreck on the DNT....and even then, Midway or Hillcrest/Ohio usually move faster than Preston. One of the worst intersections in the entire metroplex is the stretch of Preston from Plano Road to just south of Bush....it has taken me 20-25 minutes to drive that stretch in rush hour.
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Old 01-12-2015, 10:57 AM
 
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Am I the only one that sometimes will take Preston from the 635 area rather than the tollway because I just enjoy the drive and scenery better? Even the stop lights? It's just more relaxing to me sometimes then going 80mph on the tollway with other race car drivers.
Good lord, NO!

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I commute to Plano daily so I only take Preston if there is a MAJOR wreck on the DNT....and even then, Midway or Hillcrest/Ohio usually move faster than Preston. One of the worst intersections in the entire metroplex is the stretch of Preston from Plano Road to just south of Bush....it has taken me 20-25 minutes to drive that stretch in rush hour.
Oh god, yes...I've been stuck in that traffic hell. Also Park Road in Plano between DNT and just west of Willow Bend mall. Traffic lights every 2 feet.
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Old 01-12-2015, 11:23 AM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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This is going south on Preston, not north. Sorry.
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Old 01-12-2015, 11:42 AM
 
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This is going south on Preston, not north. Sorry.
That's the direction I was speaking to....I find it to be awful!
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