02-20-2015, 09:17 PM
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We've been busy touring various new build communities in Frisco & Allen over this week and we've narrowed down our choices to these two options:
1. Building in Lawler Park 75s, Frisco
2. Buying a spec home in Star Creek 65, Allen
As I work from home and the wife doesn't plan to work anytime soon, commute isn't an issue for me. Our main concerns are resale (5-10 yrs) and elementary schools (we have an 8 month old).
We really liked the surrounding areas of the star creek. Lots of shopping and restaurants within very short distance. But I'm not too thrilled about the rear garages. And the elementary school seems a bit far from the community.
OTOH, I love the fact the Lawler Park has elementary within the community. It's also closer to the legacy corridor than Star Creek. But there's not much going on in the immediate surrounding areas in terms of shopping, restaurants.
If we do build in the Lawler Park, the price will be very close to our upper budget. Star Creek would be 50k-100k lower than that. But we're happy to pay the premium if the resale prospects are better.
Any thoughts? Your help is greatly appreciated!
02-21-2015, 11:43 AM
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I live in Star Creek in phase 1. I thought the rear garages were strange at first, because they are not common where I moved from. I like them now. I assume you are looking on the east side of Star Creek since you are looking at new build. If so, I know the elementary school (Cheatham) seems distant, but it's not really. We are on the west side, so zoned to Lindsey. Cheatham is 1.5 miles from my house, and Lindsey is 2.1 miles. Plus, you have at least 4 years before school, and we could be rezoned again. Folks on my side that moved in when the neighborhood opened are on their 3rd elementary school. Rezonings are even worse in Frisco from what I hear. I've been here 2.5 years and love it. I looked in Frisco too, but I like Allen better and didn't want to commute on the toll road. We go to Frisco quite often to try different restaurants, visit the Apple store, etc. and to me, the traffic seems worse. It may just be my perception and the fact that I know all the back roads around here though.
02-22-2015, 08:51 AM
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You cannot go wrong with both options.Both are great development. Pick the place that feels the most comfortable for you. As for retails and restaurants, I don't see much difference between the two, I live exactly half way form both places, and I wouldn't move to any other place. Frisco is growing and developping, and it has already changed so much in a few years. Personnely , I would give Lawler Park an edge , since people that have moved there seem to be very happy with their choice and also I do prefer the size of the schools in Frisco , but that is a personal choice.
02-22-2015, 06:58 PM
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bamaintex & Souleiado, thanks for your replies!
We had liked two Darling spec homes in the Star Creek. But we ended up discarding them after the 2nd visit. One of them had very small kitchen for a 3700 sq ft house. And the other house's living room was overlooking the garage of the property on the other side. When we visited, their garage was open for a while, and I felt the view out of the living room was hideous due to that. Attaching the picture here.
Also, turns out Darling raised the Lawler Park 75 prices again. The floorplan we liked is around 4000 sq ft. at $575k. It feels way overpriced. And after doing some more research, I'm leaning more towards west frisco because of all the planned/upcoming developments (wade park, canals at grand park, grand park, cowboy project).
So, we're back to square one here
02-22-2015, 07:04 PM
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bamaintex & Souleiado, thanks for your replies!
We had liked two Darling spec homes in the Star Creek. But we ended up discarding them after the 2nd visit. One of them had very small kitchen for a 3700 sq ft house. And the other house's living room was overlooking the garage of the property on the other side. When we visited, their garage was open for a while, and I felt the view out of the living room was hideous due to that. Attaching the picture here.
Also, turns out Darling raised the Lawler Park 75 prices again. The floorplan we liked is around 4000 sq ft. at $575k. It feels way overpriced. And after doing some more research, I'm leaning more towards west frisco because of all the planned/upcoming developments (wade park, canals at grand park, grand park, cowboy project).
So, we're back to square one here
Wade park and the $5Bn mile is east frisco closer to preston rd.
02-22-2015, 07:17 PM
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Wade park and the $5Bn mile is east frisco closer to preston rd.
Ummm no. West Frisco. The $5B Mile is the amount of construction along the DNT.
02-22-2015, 07:44 PM
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I was in the same spot few months back deciding between east or west frisco. I decided on East Frisco(Richwoods) based on proximity to hwy access(both 121 & DNT), access to legacy area, access to Richardson and access to future Wade park.
Wade park is on the right side of the DNT on the northbound, it is much easy to access from east Frisco than crossing the DNT.
But 5B Mile is not much far from either side, but I think if you are closer to Hwy(121 or DNT), it will be easy access.
02-22-2015, 07:57 PM
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Sorry to start the west v/s east debate! I have nothing against east frisco, but I think wade park is more easily accessible from the parts west side (cotton gin road, diamond point lane) we're considering even though it's on the other side of the DNT.
02-22-2015, 10:12 PM
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Sorry to start the west v/s east debate! I have nothing against east frisco, but I think wade park is more easily accessible from the parts west side (cotton gin road, diamond point lane) we're considering even though it's on the other side of the DNT.
There is no point in creating a debate. Wade park has a very access through lebanon through east anyways. However, $5Bn is a great investment in frisco... Hope to see a major company relocation soon.
02-23-2015, 10:33 AM
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I don't think its overpriced, Richwoods and Lawler park have such great access to 121/75 and the tollway. You wont hit any of the school zones at points north of main. Resale is going to be great, access to west frisco is also a breeze. Personally speaking as much as love living in the middle of it, I am kind of glad to be on the plano/McKinney/allen/ corner of the last exit on frisco....its not to retail on this teeny corner. You may like Liberty crossing up the road, that's a super cute new community as well all khov. Darling in Lawler is a great product..did you look at the highland plans in lawler? I think their lot premiums are higher..but not sure.
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People in Group quarters - Other noninstitutional group quarters (%)
Residents speaking English at home (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)