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Old 02-24-2015, 08:24 PM
 
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1. Is "tip" the new word for "hook"? Or just OP's word for a category that she has expanded to include students getting extra time?

2. I find it borderline offensive that she appears to have asked her child* to list specific students that, for example, get extra time. I am also a little skeptical that she or her child would know everyone's specific legacy status.

3. Very sad that all of elementary and secondary school appears to have telescoped down to just college admissions for the OP.
There are many advantages in a private education, but a lot of people are mainly interested in the preparatory nature of these schools.
I am sorry if you find it borderline offensive that my child told me who had extra time. My child was outraged that people all of a sudden in 11th grade were taking 3 AP courses and getting extra time in all of them FOR THE FIRST TIME in 10 years. I asked her how many in her AP US history class section fell into that category- she said 50% !! Some of them were concussion extra timers who had not quit their sport, not taken any time off, still taking 3 APs- and getting extra time. I genuinely felt sorry for these children and thought the school ought not to have allowed it. But I also felt for my child, who considered a lot of it cheating .
If your child is in a school for 12 years and you are even marginally friendly, interested in people, sociable, and interested in their children, and an active volunteer at the school, then you can easily know where the parents went to college.
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Old 02-24-2015, 10:44 PM
 
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Is 3 AP classes considered a lot? Serious question.

I went to (public) high school in California and most people in 11th grade took at least 4-5 AP classes, some of them up to 6 or 7.
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Old 02-24-2015, 11:27 PM
 
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Is 3 AP classes considered a lot? Serious question.

I went to (public) high school in California and most people in 11th grade took at least 4-5 AP classes, some of them up to 6 or 7.

yes. My son took 5 APs in 11th grade in Irvine High in California with varsity volleyball, several clubs and community service.
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Old 02-25-2015, 01:20 AM
 
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There are plenty of kids in the area taking more than 3 AP classes. 20 years ago every class I had was IB and AP if it wasn't offered in IB. And that was at Garland High, not even considered attendable on this board.
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Old 02-25-2015, 07:14 AM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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Greenhill only allows 3 APs - so we can make a good guess where the OP's kid attends school.

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Setting aside the "extra time" issue, there is a useful takeaway here. A fair amount of college admission success is, indeed, due to "tips" such as those the OP cites. And kids with those advantages are found in much greater proportions in private schools. These "tips", by and large, aren't created by the private school - the kids bring those to the table from the outside. As a result, the benefit of private school - by itself - is overstated.

For example, Hockaday probably has better admissions success with Ivies than, say, Southlake Carroll. A prospective parent might ascribe that effect mostly to the Hockaday educational process, while, in reality, a good chunk of that may come simply from having several legacy kids at Hockaday. In effect, an ordinary (non-legacy) student from Hockaday may have much less of an advantage over a public kid than the raw numbers would imply - or even a disadvantage, if it turns out the "Hockaday spots" at elite colleges are first filled with the legacies.

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Old 02-25-2015, 08:10 AM
 
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My son still has his tip. I think most HS seniors in Texas have no tips though since circumcision is still the norm here. HTH.
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Old 02-25-2015, 08:37 AM
 
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I think tipping less than 15% for decent performance is cheap.
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Old 02-25-2015, 10:44 AM
 
Location: NYC
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OP you still need to define what you mean by tips. Your first post really makes no sense. Most kids I know take 5-6 AP classes as well. Why would it be offensive if someone in 11th grade starts taking AP? Perhaps they weren't ready in younger years and finally felt they were.

I know when I went to high school (years ago). I had no idea I could just take an AP course. I thought you had to be recommended by the teacher. Once I learned I could sign up for any course available, I took all AP my junior and senior years. It's hard not to make a blanket judgement, but you truly have no idea what's going on or happening in everyone's life.
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Old 02-25-2015, 11:45 AM
 
Location: North Dallas via Philly .. and DC
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What kills me is that she said her daughter stated that 50% are getting more time. How do you possibly know this, and why? Why do you care that students started taking AP classes in 11th grade and not prior? I think you seem to be a bit too concerned about the other students and what they are doing/not doing instead of yours.
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Old 02-25-2015, 12:56 PM
 
Location: Colleyville
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My son still has his tip. I think most HS seniors in Texas have no tips though since circumcision is still the norm here. HTH.
This thread got (unintentionally) pretty funny
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