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Old 07-11-2015, 06:04 AM
 
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Keep in mind that whe values were falling during 2009-2011 tax years, the city/county/ISD were running the same sized operations on much less income. Just because a home's tax bill fell by 25% in that time doesn't mean it costs 25% less to fill potholes, sand overpasses during ice storms, staff DPD & Dallas Fire, run Parkland, etc. Most individuals who were employed the county/ISD/city received no raise in income over those years and possibly saw reduced benefifs to balance the budget. DISD has many campuses in need of significant repairs and upgrades.
What about fixing potholes? I'm not impressed with the quality of roads in the area. There are too many potholes in Dallas. These potholes can cause significant damage to cars.

I'm all for low taxes and a pro-business climate (probably why so many Californians move to Texas), but there needs to be some amount of municipal services.
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Old 07-11-2015, 08:29 AM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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What about fixing potholes? I'm not impressed with the quality of roads in the area. There are too many potholes in Dallas. These potholes can cause significant damage to cars.

I'm all for low taxes and a pro-business climate (probably why so many Californians move to Texas), but there needs to be some amount of municipal services.
Isn't that more of a City of Dallas issue than a Texas issue though? I feel your pain, I live in Dallas and the roads are pathetic, but I don't see that issue as much in the suburbs or state roads.

In that context, I am not sure that Dallas (which votes Democrat) is a good example.

The other thing is that of course the "low tax" thing is a little overblown. Local and state tax burden is lower here, but it's not dramatically different than the national average. We aren't Alaska or Wyoming.
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Old 07-11-2015, 08:34 AM
 
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Sounds like he is asking why a taxpayer has to pay for a college and hospital as part of their property taxes, as opposed to the students and patients, respectively (a good question IMO).
Why do I have to pay for DISD taxes when my kids will go to private school? Why can't only the houses with kids pay school property taxes? Why do MY federal tax dollars pay for programs like food stamps (I can afford my own food, thank you!) or maintaining interstates in states I never drive through? Why can't poor people and only people in those states pay for those things?

Same principle with Parkland and DCCC's.....there are things in life that we ALL help pay for in order to better society.
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Old 07-11-2015, 08:37 AM
 
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What about fixing potholes? I'm not impressed with the quality of roads in the area. There are too many potholes in Dallas. These potholes can cause significant damage to cars.

I'm all for low taxes and a pro-business climate (probably why so many Californians move to Texas), but there needs to be some amount of municipal services.
I agree with you! They should be spending more money maintaining our city roads and city/state highways in the Dallas area. Drive down Preston Road through HP & UP (who maintance their own sections of the road) and notice how smooth it is compared to the Dallas-maintained parts north of NW Highway. You rarely ever see a long-term pothole in the Park Cities because they can pay to maintain the roads in a timely manner.
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Old 07-11-2015, 09:10 AM
 
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Isn't that more of a City of Dallas issue than a Texas issue though? I feel your pain, I live in Dallas and the roads are pathetic, but I don't see that issue as much in the suburbs or state roads.
I would like to know where the responsibility falls in this case.

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Drive down Preston Road through HP & UP (who maintance their own sections of the road) and notice how smooth it is compared to the Dallas-maintained parts north of NW Highway. You rarely ever see a long-term pothole in the Park Cities because they can pay to maintain the roads in a timely manner.
I will pay attention to this the next time that I am on Preston Road in the Park Cities. I can really see why the Park Cities separated from Dallas.
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Old 07-11-2015, 10:40 AM
 
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I will pay attention to this the next time that I am on Preston Road in the Park Cities. I can really see why the Park Cities separated from Dallas.
They actually didn't separate from Dallas. When HP and UP were founded, they were the northern "suburbs" of that time, a few miles beyond Dallas City limits. Over time, the city of Dallas grew around the Park Cities and neither UP not HP never voted in favor of annexation by Dallas, like the adjacent town of Preston Hollow did.
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Old 07-11-2015, 11:07 AM
 
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They actually didn't separate from Dallas. When HP and UP were founded, they were the northern "suburbs" of that time, a few miles beyond Dallas City limits. Over time, the city of Dallas grew around the Park Cities and neither UP not HP never voted in favor of annexation by Dallas, like the adjacent town of Preston Hollow did.
Yes, good point. I used an inexact wording. I recall reading something that the Park Cities were based upon Beverly Hills.

Preston Hollow is a pretty nice area too. Despite being much older areas, both the Park Cities and Preston Hollow do a great job of staying vibrant and being considered desirable places to live. There's a prevalent attitude in Sun Belt cities that anything over 10 years old is outdated and undesirable.
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Old 07-11-2015, 02:10 PM
 
Location: Southlake. Don't judge me.
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I love when people say they want to be in Coppell, Southlake, Plano because of the great schools.
Then they realize someone has to pay for those great schools.

Nope there are no ways to escape paying County, Parkland, DCCC taxes if you live in Dallas County.
Many of us have additional taxes like DCURD or MUD taxes.
We definitely considered property taxes when we were looking, but also realized that taxes are part of the price you pay for certain areas. Whether or not it "makes sense" depends on the overall costs and benefit.

Southlake appears to have increased their homeowner's exemption recently, which is minor but does save people a several hundred bucks (give or take, depending on the home value, etc.). Colleyville and especially Grapevine have slightly lower tax burdens than Southlake/Carroll. As many have noted, Coppell is quite high (Dallas county in addition to everything else).

It's all part of the price tag.
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