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Old 07-29-2015, 07:00 AM
 
Location: Colleyville
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If the methodology for these rankings is STAAR performance, then these rankings frankly don't mean much to me. I was told during the build up to this test how hard it was, and how even the good students would struggle. We got our scores in and my sons and their friends all blew the top off that test. Granted, they are all traditional learners- I'm sure it is difficult for those students with different learning styles. But the test and all the practice before it does not promote higher level thinking or innovation. It does measure math skills and reading comprehension, which yes, are highly useful skills. My concern is lack of synthesis of these skills in our public schools today. Of course Carroll scored well- they drill just like all the other 'burb districts (including mine) do and practically shut down the school for a month to complete the testing. All the children come to school having had a good night's sleep and a healthy breakfast. I feel like this discussion will become a retread of all the countless other threads about school districts.
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Old 07-30-2015, 10:37 PM
 
Location: Southlake. Don't judge me.
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If the methodology for these rankings is STAAR performance, then these rankings frankly don't mean much to me. I was told during the build up to this test how hard it was, and how even the good students would struggle. We got our scores in and my sons and their friends all blew the top off that test. Granted, they are all traditional learners- I'm sure it is difficult for those students with different learning styles. But the test and all the practice before it does not promote higher level thinking or innovation. It does measure math skills and reading comprehension, which yes, are highly useful skills. My concern is lack of synthesis of these skills in our public schools today. Of course Carroll scored well- they drill just like all the other 'burb districts (including mine) do and practically shut down the school for a month to complete the testing. All the children come to school having had a good night's sleep and a healthy breakfast. I feel like this discussion will become a retread of all the countless other threads about school districts.
Carroll does as good a job as anyone at teaching to the test (and making sure everyone understands that the STAAR test is The Most Importantest Thing Of Ever).

And I TOTALLY agree with you on "lack of synthesis". I've said countless times that the greatest advances come from people who have knowledge in two disparate fields and see connections between them that people who are completely focused on just one of those areas has not. People who are narrowly taught to do "X" are at a disadvantage there.
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Old 07-31-2015, 06:51 AM
 
Location: home
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Way to go Lakewood - from a former Armstrong Eagle.
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Old 07-31-2015, 08:34 AM
 
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Dallas ISD doesn't need vitamins, they need resuscitation. Suburbs compete with each other, DISD is not in their league.
If it makes you sleep better at night thinking you traded trees, culture, commute, decent restaurants, and character for marginally better schools (at best) then go for it.
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Old 07-31-2015, 08:54 AM
 
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If it makes you sleep better at night thinking you traded trees, culture, commute, decent restaurants, and character for marginally better schools (at best) then go for it.
I'm far from team suburbia, but to me the idea that you should care more about mature trees than your child's education is uh...
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Old 07-31-2015, 08:58 AM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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If it makes you sleep better at night thinking you traded trees, culture, commute, decent restaurants, and character for marginally better schools (at best) then go for it.
I don't really understand the personal nature of some of these suburb/Dallas debates. Every individual situation is different and what makes sense for each family.
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Old 07-31-2015, 09:00 AM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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I'm far from team suburbia, but to me the idea that you should care more about mature trees than your child's education is uh...
Agreed, the only caveat being that I think it is hard to really say that by moving to Prosper, Frisco, or even Plano that you are significantly improving (or improving at all) your child's elementary school education versus Lakewood (or Stonewall for that matter).
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Old 07-31-2015, 09:03 AM
 
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Agreed, the only caveat being that I think it is hard to really say that by moving to Prosper, Frisco, or even Plano that you are significantly improving (or improving at all) your child's elementary school education versus Lakewood (or Stonewall for that matter).
There are schools after elementary.
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Old 07-31-2015, 09:16 AM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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There are schools after elementary.
Of course, but this topic was regarding elementary school rankings (which are really just STAAR performance rankings).
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Old 07-31-2015, 09:25 AM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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Of course, but this topic was regarding elementary school rankings (which are really just STAAR performance rankings).
Props to Lakewood. For them to pull this off in DISD is outstanding. What some people are referring to is what pharpe posted. That you are trading beauty for suburbia for marginally better schools.

1st. Maybe marginally better elementary. After that there is a VERY large gap.
2nd. Last I looked you could get a very nice house in almost any suburb for 2-400K. That not the case at all in the Lakewood Elementary area. It's closing in on Park Cities prices.
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