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Old 07-27-2015, 04:23 PM
 
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Way to go, Lakewood! Also soon to get a $13 million addition/renovation...

Lakewood Elementary School in Dallas TX - SchoolDigger.com
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Old 07-28-2015, 10:32 AM
 
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Incidentally, Armstrong Elementary, in the heart of Highland Park, is 59th:

http://www.schooldigger.com/go/TX/sc...355/school.asp
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Old 07-28-2015, 11:04 AM
 
Location: Southlake. Don't judge me.
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I take all these ratings with a huge grain of salt, especially since I don't see what their methodology is. I mean, great for Lakewood Elementary and all, but without any indication of what factors are used and how they're ranked, it's just another "OK, that's nice". At least having more data available and aggregated in one place is helpful.

I assume they have some factors that weight test scores relative to socioeconomic status, which is nice, although the top schools do appear to be disproportionately affluent.
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Old 07-28-2015, 12:23 PM
 
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Incidentally, Armstrong Elementary, in the heart of Highland Park, is 59th:

http://www.schooldigger.com/go/TX/sc...355/school.asp
Incidentally, all 3 of the remaining Highland Park Elementary Schools (Bradfield #10, University Park #12; and Hyer #13) rank way above Lakewood Elementary.
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Old 07-28-2015, 01:12 PM
 
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Yes, anytime a Dallas school is rated higher than a suburban school, some posters here invariably poo poo it instead of being generous and giving the school a little praise or credit. It might lead one to think that some of the suburban people don't want Dallas schools to succeed!

I guess you can go to the site to check the methodology, where I'm sure you find some way to refute the ranking...
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Old 07-28-2015, 01:28 PM
 
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I take all these ratings with a huge grain of salt, especially since I don't see what their methodology is. I mean, great for Lakewood Elementary and all, but without any indication of what factors are used and how they're ranked, it's just another "OK, that's nice". At least having more data available and aggregated in one place is helpful.

I assume they have some factors that weight test scores relative to socioeconomic status, which is nice, although the top schools do appear to be disproportionately affluent.

Actually, there isn't any weighting to those factors (which would hurt Lakewood anyway I would guess). From the info on their website it is simply a ranking of performance on state test (STAAR) scores. Their methodology is here: SchoolDigger.com - Ranking Methodology

The biggest question is: what does performance on those tests really tell you about an elementary school?

I don't really know the answer. The other question is: What is a better metric to evaluate public elementary schools? I don't really know. Class size and curriculum are basically set by the state for public enrollment elementary schools. If you are looking at an individual school, there are certainly items you look for in terms of parental involvement, facilities, programs available (dual language, etc.), but from a statistical standpoint it's tough to measure Elementary schools in my mind.
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Old 07-28-2015, 04:13 PM
 
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Incidentally, all 3 of the remaining Highland Park Elementary Schools (Bradfield #10, University Park #12; and Hyer #13) rank way above Lakewood Elementary.
Actually they are slightly better. Out of 4,128 schools the difference between 13 and 37 is half a percent. Schools ranked 1-41 are in the top 1%.
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Old 07-28-2015, 04:23 PM
 
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If the criteria doesn't cover socioeconomic status, this makes Lakewood look even better. Isn't HPISD zero percent economically disadvantged?


Keep it up Lakewooder, don't let the naysayers get you down. I'm surprised you didn't mention that Woodrow Wilson went up 240 places.
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Old 07-28-2015, 08:33 PM
 
Location: Southlake. Don't judge me.
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Yes, anytime a Dallas school is rated higher than a suburban school, some posters here invariably poo poo it instead of being generous and giving the school a little praise or credit. It might lead one to think that some of the suburban people don't want Dallas schools to succeed!

I guess you can go to the site to check the methodology, where I'm sure you find some way to refute the ranking...
Oh for Pete's sake, why am I not surprised? FWIW, if we really want to play the...er, "measuring" contest, I'll note that the elementary school we feed into is 4th in the state (and highest among all DFW metro elementaries), and the rankings look to be VERY favorable to Carroll ISD (we have 6th and 7th in state as well as 4th).

That said, as I noted before (and without any reference to Carroll previously), I STILL take all these rankings with a grain of salt.
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Old 07-28-2015, 09:17 PM
 
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Yes, anytime a Dallas school is rated higher than a suburban school, some posters here invariably poo poo it instead of being generous and giving the school a little praise or credit. It might lead one to think that some of the suburban people don't want Dallas schools to succeed!

I guess you can go to the site to check the methodology, where I'm sure you find some way to refute the ranking...
Dallas ISD doesn't need vitamins, they need resuscitation. Suburbs compete with each other, DISD is not in their league.
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