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Old 09-11-2015, 05:23 PM
 
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What is the ratio of Asians to non-Asians for PISD nmsfs ?
These are AMERICAN students attending AMERICAN schools, ethnicity of their parents is a non factor, unless you ask how many of those "non-Asians" students have roots in Africa, Europ or Middle East.

Just for the record, Highland Park ISD has 3.5% Asians, Allen ISD 27%, Plano 20%, Frisco ISD 18% and Allen ISD has roughly 16% Asians so not much difference though their results vary a lot.

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Old 09-11-2015, 05:26 PM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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What is the ratio of Asians to non-Asians for PISD nmsfs ?
Rough estimate of non-Asians based on names:

PWSH 12
PSHS 1
PESH 4

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Oh, and for sake of completeness:

NMSFs from PISD Academy: 0
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Old 09-11-2015, 05:28 PM
 
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Rough estimate of non-Asians based on names:

PWSH 12
PSHS 1
PESH 4
Congratulations if appropriate and I'm betting they are.
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Old 09-11-2015, 07:18 PM
 
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They don't break it down by ethnicity. If you think that names can help you, the link I posted names the winners.
Guessing by their names, I would estimate the ratio of Asians/total NMSF are approximately:
Plano East Senior High School: ~5/12 (42%)
Plano Senior High School: ~9/13 (69%)
Plano West Senior High School: ~39/53 (74%)

So overall, they comprise: ~ 53/78 (68%)
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Old 09-11-2015, 07:21 PM
 
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These are AMERICAN students attending AMERICAN schools, ethnicity of their parents is a non factor, unless you ask how many of those "non-Asians" students have roots in Africa, Europ or Middle East.

Just for the record, Highland Park ISD has 3.5% Asians, Allen ISD 27%, Plano 20%, Frisco ISD 18% and Allen ISD has roughly 16% Asians so not much difference though their results vary a lot.
You don't think ethnicity has a factor in these things?
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Old 09-11-2015, 07:45 PM
 
Location: Southlake. Don't judge me.
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Plano ISD has 78 total NMSFs.

Plano East has 12.
Plano Senior has 13.
Plano West has 53.

National Merit Semifinalists / News Archive : Plano ISD
Wow, that feeder realignment has REALLY tilted things West.
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Old 09-11-2015, 08:19 PM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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Wow, that feeder realignment has REALLY tilted things West.
It sure has. On some earlier thread, I opined on how that's a lose-lose for all schools.

tl;dr version - lowers reputation of Senior/East, unfairly deflates class rank for kids at West.

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I can give you a boots-on-the-ground ethnic breakdown for PSHS:

6 Chinese/Taiwanese
3 Indian
2 Korean
1 Indonesian
1 Minnesotan

FWIW, the gender split is 11/2 guys vs. girls.

For PESH, it's interesting that there appear to be ZERO Chinese kids on that list. 7-8 kids with Indian first and/or last names, though. At least one of those kids was originally in Central cluster and went to PESH for the IB program.

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Old 09-11-2015, 08:58 PM
 
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I agree with Big G that the realignment has been a lose-lose for all schools, such a bad idea.
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Old 09-11-2015, 10:02 PM
 
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What was the rationale behind the PISD realignment?
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Old 09-11-2015, 10:40 PM
 
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What was the rationale behind the PISD realignment?
Good idea, poor execution.

There were two issues that the board of 2009 were trying to solve:

1) Overcrowding at Plano East - the school had over 3000 kids, and was already using a warren of portable classrooms. That zone was projected to grow by hundreds more over the next 10-20 years, as the east side continued to be built out. (If anything, actual growth has exceeded projections - the "reduced" PESH is now back up to 2992 kids for 2015-2016- so that was clearly a correct call.)
2) Split feeder at Jasper - In the old system, 3 middle schools fed to Jasper High for grades 9-10. Then, for grades 11-12, these kids would be split up. The Rice and Schimelpfenig kids to Senior, the Robinson kids to West. This was a logistical nightmare for sports teams, speech teams, band/orchestra - basically any extracurricular that spans the full 9-12 sequence.

There were a bazillion different ways to cut that Gordian knot. But every last one of the proposals that were floated included moving Rice over to West. That never got challenged, because no one ever paid any attention to how that would impact the academic demographics of the schools. The other issues were more hot-button.
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