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Old 07-14-2016, 12:49 PM
 
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1. I live in Dallas and on a day to day basis rarely leave the city.
2. Your send paragraph is just bogus. Except for one beer bar that I really like in Plano and to meet friends who live in the 'burbs I rarely go to the 'burbs for anything - at least not regularly. The best shopping, nightlife, hotels, restaurants, and cultural spots are in Dallas not the 'burbs. Arguing otherwise underscores your misconception(s).
I live way out and couldn't find any logic in that second paragraph.
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Old 07-14-2016, 12:51 PM
 
Location: Both sides of the Red River
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Dallas has really "grown up" economically, but I disagree with you that its "on par" with Chicago in most measures today. For non work considerations, Chicago is a way better city to live in. More culture, better nightlife, way better public transit and walkability, Lake Michigan, etc. Maybe DFW will use its expanding tax base to build some of the things Chicago has, but I'm skeptical. I do hope that the crime problems on the South side of Chicago don't reach a point though where they start driving out everyone else though.
Not disagreeing with this but I don't think Chicago is the best comparison to DFW for the simple fact that it is much more established and older than this area. I would compare this area to other "new" sunbelt metros like Houston or Atlanta....of course Dallas is now more expensive than both of these cities.
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Old 07-14-2016, 12:59 PM
 
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What do you have to drive to the suburbs for?
If I did not work in a suburb, I can tell you exactly how many times a year I would leave the city of Dallas:

1. Approx 6 times to go to DFW (which isn't really a "destination", but rather a means to get to my destination)
2. Less than 5 times to go to a Rangers game or something at Jerryworld. Probably more like 3 times.
3. 2-3 trips to Fort Worth which isn't a suburb but an actual city that happens to be 30 miles to our west
4. Maybe 2-3 other misc things in the suburbs, like if someone wants to go up to McKinney town square for an afternoon.

So if I didn't work in a suburb, I would physically leave the city of Dallas less than 10 times a year, excluding air travel.


However, if I lived in a suburb and wanted to replicate my life in Dallas, I'd be coming into town A LOT:

1. 50+ trips to eat at non-chain, local restaurants. And good lord I hope no one argues that the restaurants in Plano or Southlake or Allen are on par with what's in Bishop Arts, Lower Greenville, Downtown, Design District, etc.
2. Approx 20 trips to enjoy Dallas' cultural institutions, whether it's an exhibit at the DMA or taking my nephews to the Perot or the Arboretum's Children's Garden or enjoying a show at the Wyly or Winspear. Or events at Klyde Warren Park.
3. Approx 4-6 concerts at The Granada, The Kessler, or other small Dallas venues
4. Approx 4-6 Mavs & Stars games
5. Approx 2-3 events at SMU like the fabulous Tate lecture series

So less than 10 trips TO the suburbs needed but more than 80 trips FROM the suburbs needed. Hmm...
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Old 07-14-2016, 01:00 PM
 
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You realize one has to travel to out of Boston to catch a Patriots game? Same in NYC. I think your reasoning here is dreadful. And The DMA, The Mort, The Nasher, Perot Museum, Love Field and The AAC and many more are all in Dallas and very close to each other?
Exactly! The Meadowlands is in NJ. JFK is technically in NYC but so far out in Brooklyn that it's almost Long Island. This poster makes zero sense.
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Old 07-14-2016, 01:03 PM
 
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Not disagreeing with this but I don't think Chicago is the best comparison to DFW for the simple fact that it is much more established and older than this area. I would compare this area to other "new" sunbelt metros like Houston or Atlanta....of course Dallas is now more expensive than both of these cities.
Do you know that last part for sure?
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Old 07-14-2016, 01:06 PM
 
Location: The Windy City
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Here's the thing though... If you live in downtown Chicago, you don't need a car, you can walk anywhere. 99% of your needs will be within a 10 minute walk.

If you live in downtown Dallas, you definitely need a car to go anywhere. Grocery store... miles away. Clothing stores... miles away.

I don't consider Uptown, Oaklawn, etc a true city experience, even though they are in the city limits. Up near 75 and 635 is still in Dallas. Is that a city living experience?
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Old 07-14-2016, 01:10 PM
 
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You don't consider the most walkable part of Dallas a city experience? It has restaurants, retail, grocery, that you could walk to from your apartment.
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Old 07-14-2016, 01:11 PM
 
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I guess we'll never know until a bubble bursts. I do think that the rent price increases will slow down soon.

I find it hard to believe that people will pay over $1000 a month for a nothing-special 1br apartment in Arlington. I know I will not.
I think you are getting ripped off at 1000/mo. in Arlington. We just moved into a decent 1 br. in west Arlington for much less. Its perfect for us as we are saving up for a big down payment on a house. The only dilema is where to look, DW works in east FW, and I work in west Dallas. So many options....

It didn't help that we drove around the Fairmont District a week ago and my wife fell in love with the refurbished old homes. Neddless to say, I think we'll be moving to that side of Ft. Worth sometime in the future
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Old 07-14-2016, 01:13 PM
 
Location: Both sides of the Red River
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Do you know that last part for sure?
Yes.

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Old 07-14-2016, 01:15 PM
 
Location: The Windy City
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I think you are getting ripped off at 1000/mo. in Arlington. We just moved into a decent 1 br. in west Arlington for much less. Its perfect for us as we are saving up for a big down payment on a house. The only dilema is where to look, DW works in east FW, and I work in west Dallas. So many options....

It didn't help that we drove around the Fairmont District a week ago and my wife fell in love with the refurbished old homes. Neddless to say, I think we'll be moving to that side of Ft. Worth sometime in the future
I'm only paying $900. But it was one of the few apartment complexes in town that didn't have bad reviews of break-ins, shootings, stabbings, illegal towings, etc.

I found places around $700-800, but the reviews were not great.
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