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Old 10-03-2016, 03:26 PM
 
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I've been all over the metro, with the exception of Collin county (besides driving through 75). I have yet to find any place (besides the areas surrounding downtown FW and Dallas) that appeal to me.

I'd say that 1/3 of the metro resembles Arlington. These places include Grand Prairie, Irving, Garland, and Mesquite. Older homes, run down strip centers, used car lots, payday loan shops, pawn shops. Very suburban feeling.

Another 1/3 resembles Grapevine. This is where everyone out of state is moving to. I'd include places like Flower Mound, Carrollton, and Coppell. I've been told that most of Collin County would fit in this category. They are like the first category, but the strip centers are newer and nicer, and the homes are newer and more expensive. Very suburban feeling as well.

The last 1/3 is a mixture. Some of it is nicer urban (areas surrounding downtown FW and Dallas), and the other is run-down urban feeling where every home has bars on the windows (think South Dallas).

Since I have zero desire to live in Suburbia USA, only about 1/6 of the metroplex appeals to me. DFW is unique in that the majority of the metro is very suburban. Like someone else mentioned, this area is much newer, so more emphasis has been put on the suburbs.
Saying you have been 'All over the metro, except' is an oxymoron. You have either been all over or you haven't.

Two, with the exception of... Maybe NYC. MOST urban areas are mostly suburbia. I dont know what city you come from that is wall to wall cities and skyscrapers but if thats what you are looking for, see NY or get a passport. Toronto might fit the bill as well.

Three, i've spent some time in Kansas city... Both Kansas Cities. Epic snoozefests. They are endearing in their own midwestern way but i cant even venture to imagine why someone from there would be reffering to DFW of all places as 'surburban' as if Kansas city is buzzing with metropolitan activity.

There's a hint of homesickness and forlornness in your posts and to that i say 'that too shall pass' but knocking an entire metro area because you chose to live in the college/family entertainment part of town is getting old. I say move, get out more or maybe go back home and start over? Just a suggestion.

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Old 10-03-2016, 04:40 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Let's just say people don't move here for the arts, culture, diversity, lakes, etc.

The DFW area has more outdoor activities than most people think, though.
Perhaps not the others, but plenty of people I know have moved to DFW for its diversity.
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Old 10-03-2016, 06:12 PM
 
Location: plano
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I agree. There is more arts, culture, diversity here than I have time to enjoy. Plano and Irving as well as Dallas and FW have symphonies. They aren't on the level of a major symphony but few of us can spot the differences and the it doesn't spoil the enjoyment either.

There is more diversity in some areas than others as in any place. Living in NYC metro the integration of the diversity is not greater than I have experienced here in Plano. I moved here for the diversity, for family and for the vast attractions of a city. I play golf year around too so the weather isnt as bad to me as most climates.

Thank goodness the weather isnt great , this place has enough traffic without it! YMMV which is what makes the world go around and not get lopsided by all living in one place.
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Old 10-03-2016, 08:24 PM
 
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Racial or economic diversity? We have large groups of people from every ethnic group, however most people seem to stick to their kind. Whites with whites, blacks with blacks, etc. In NOC, Lakewood, Plano, etc., I see people from the different groups that consistently mingle with each other, but not so much in other areas.

Dallas is more economically diverse than anything.
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Old 10-03-2016, 08:42 PM
 
Location: Texas
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I mean, I never see anyone move anywhere specifically for economic diversity, not to say it is good or bad. Here in Carrollton, I see people of different races and ethnicities (which in my opinion is just as important when it comes to some groups, especially some Asians) mingling together.just a couple of weeks ago, I went to a party in FB, and the group seemed roughly evenly distributed among Asians, Blacks, Whites, and Hispanic Whites.
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Old 10-03-2016, 09:59 PM
 
Location: Shady Drifter
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If you want more economic and job opportunities, or more "bang for the buck" with your money, you move to the D/FW area.

If you want a true urban lifestyle, or the better weather and outdoor activities offered along the coasts, you move there and simply accept that you'll pay more for it.

Neither one is better or worse than the other, it's just a personal decision. Dallas is not and never will be NYC / San Francisco / Seattle, but on the flip side Dallas is nowhere near as expensive and offers 90% of what those cities do. Is that extra 10% worth it? It is to some. It is to me - I'm counting the days until I'm able to move and I'm perfectly OK with paying half again as much for a smaller house, and the other economic disadvantages. To others, maybe I'm crazy.
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Old 10-03-2016, 10:09 PM
 
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Suburban America is the worst place for people in their 20s. It just so happens that DFW is primarily suburban.
Compared to what? Dallas is a dream-come-true for college grads in their 20's.
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Old 10-03-2016, 10:50 PM
 
Location: Texas
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^Thing is, based on my experience, people in their 20s are perfectly happy with having to drive around to meet up with their friends (though, I want to stress again that I do not believe a car is necessary). Maybe it is just the culture, but most people I know, even fit ones who exercise regularly and have great bodies, will opt to drive instead of walk to meet people less than half a mile away.

Don't get me wrong, there are some things that DFW is lacking, either because of history or nature, but it is a great place to live for people in their 20s.
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Old 10-04-2016, 12:10 PM
 
Location: Frisco, TX
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Suburban America is the worst place for people in their 20s.
Yeah, I disagree with this. When I turned 18 I moved to Richardson to attend school (UTD). I worked part-time and went to school full-time. I also lived with some friends. If I wanted to (I didn't) I could've driven to Dallas or wherever to party and have fun. But the reality of it? If I wasn't in school, studying, or doing homework, I was working. And when I wasn't doing those things, I was sleeping. I didn't have the time or money to waste by living in an urban area or somewhere that was really walkable and trendy. It just didn't matter to me (and still doesn't).

Then, after I graduated I (this is really shocking) moved to Frisco, AKA, the most suburban place you could ever imagine. Why? Cause I got a job in NW Plano and my long-term boyfriend was going to school in Denton and I wanted to be close to him. I had a 4 mile commute. Also, I got a newer, larger apartment for fairly cheap. An apartment somewhere trendy would've been half as big and twice as much. We got engaged a year later and guess what? Still living in Frisco 9 years later. I like the suburbs because I want a variety of grocery stores/shops around me, I want good city services, I want good schools, and I want a good place to raise my children. The suburbs work for me at any age (and obviously do for millions of other people in DFW).
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Old 10-04-2016, 07:01 PM
 
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^^^ What she said.

There is no definition of what is right or wrong for any group of people, to be honest. Individuals make choices based upon preferences, not necessarily age. So just because you're in your 20's doesn't mean your life revolves around running around bars, getting drunk and hooking up, for example.
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