What is attracting California and west coast folks to DFW? (Houston: credit, schools)

[USA_Mom]

Originally Posted by DWong

Yes, for the millionth time reasonable housing is the reason. Can everyone else just finally agree.

I think QUALITY of lifestyle is the reason for me as I stated before. Plus family and avoiding the crowds and traffic. I think you are running with ONE reason and making it ALL reasons. Step back and reread what a lot of posters wrote and you'll see it is NOT *the reason*.

[WinnieC]

Originally Posted by DWong

Do I love it here, sure I do. Do I find TX has many things to offer yes. My pesonal situation, I am fortunate to be able to live in a nice area w/ good schools. Would it be easier in TX - sure, but my likings are more aligned w/ what I have here. People who I know moved from CA - all the same reason, they want a home in a good area that they can afford. IT IS THAT SIMPLE. I have the intention of moving when family calls, flying back and forth to tend to the elderly isn't an option.

I do love the "Don't mess w/ TX" attitude which I have always heard about, but never felt full force. I just think people need to be more honest and objective. For me to say CA is plane superior is just wrong, however hearing Texans say TX is superior is their opinion.
People can defend their cities to the end of time, but be honest. I can name 10 things I don't like about the SoCAl region and found it hard for many to say 3 negatives about theirs.

CA is not the most diverse or unique? Sure cities ALL over the US have more variety, but my statement clearly said in WHAT one state will you find more diverse people, culture and topography. Heck, just compare SoCal to NoCal, you sweared you're not in the same state. Any state that has coastline w/ desert, forests, mountains?
Well, east coast cities I have some knowledge of, however they are spread across several states (allthough very close). Who doesn't love NY, Boston, Chicago, Philly - then again, those cities have been around alot longer. LA was a little desert town until early 1900's and wasn't much until Hollywood exploded a few decades into the 20th century. Those I agree have more a sense of characther.




LA especially is just adults from all parts of the country w/ no kids w/ a mix of poor immigrants w/ many kids moving in. Making for a weird mix that doesn't give the vibe that those east coast cities do or Chicago.

Whether you come right out an say CA is superior or beat around the bush as you chose to in numerous post it comes out to people reading it the same way. Let be honest topography was not in your post you simply stated that CA is the most unique and diverse state in the U.S.Which I am happy to respond that it's no even close the most unique state nor is it the most diverse. There are many things I love about L.A. however having characater is not one of them.The topography & weather are really the only unique things about SOCAL.Please stop bothering these people with your nonsense.You must have something better to do than to post on other states forum and bash their cities.

[da jammer]

OK folks let's ease up on the "moderator close the thread" stuff. (posts that have been removed are not visible to the members) I have been watching this thread and have been in contact with a few of you about staying on topic and toning down the rhetoric. So far it seems to have been working. I do not routinely close threads unless I absolutely have to. Keep in mind that if you have no interest in having a discussion with someone in here or any other topic, it might be best to find something else to become involved in. One thing I have noticed over many years of posting in internet forums is that it is very difficult for one person to talk to themselves if ya know what I mean. On a closing note, when I do close a thread I would highly recommend that another one not be started

[austinnetx]

Originally Posted by DWong

Must I go on?? I think I made the point
All of this being 40 miles to disneyland and another 20 to most LA attractions and maybe a bit more to the beach (but hey the lake is also just right there too so y'all Texans can enjoy it as well)

I lived in the LA basin for almost 7 years.

Lake Elsinore? Are you crazy? If I have a job in LA or Pasadena, that commute will suck. The 15 is the ONLY road to get in and out of Elsinore and its a parking lot during the commute.

Its 70 miles to LA, not 60. And 80+ miles to the beach. That extra 10 miles means 40 minutes to the commute time.

That's like living in Oklahoma in the DFW area.

Comparable locations to Texas are La Habra, San Dimas, Pasadena, Riverside, Corona. Even then you will be in a 2000 sf home for a much larger price.

[settledindfw]

Every ex-cali and other transplants I personally know including myself moved here because of either jobs or be close to family. Housing affordability is just another pros of living here.

Same in cali, people moved there also because of jobs and family. Being near beach, great weather, and so on, are also just another pros of living there.

You should ask yourself how you ended up there. Did your parents move there because of their fascination to beaches? Or did they move because they had relatives?

[DWong]

Originally Posted by settledindfw

Every ex-cali and other transplants I personally know including myself moved here because of either jobs or be close to family. Housing affordability is just another pros of living here.

Same in cali, people moved there also because of jobs and family. Being near beach, great weather, and so on, are also just another pros of living there.

You should ask yourself how you ended up there. Did your parents move there because of their fascination to beaches? Or did they move because they had relatives?

Shalom my friend! I believe we have the same honest line of thinking as you! Who doesn't want a nice size home to raise a family? And that is a dream for most Californians. Excellent post

[DWong]

Originally Posted by austinnetx

I lived in the LA basin for almost 7 years.

Lake Elsinore? Are you crazy? If I have a job in LA or Pasadena, that commute will suck. The 15 is the ONLY road to get in and out of Elsinore and its a parking lot during the commute.
Well, there are plenty of jobs in the greater riverside area that don't require going into LA. Not as much or w/ as high of pay, but that is the choice of those who live there.

Its 70 miles to LA, not 60. And 80+ miles to the beach. That extra 10 miles means 40 minutes to the commute time.
Really? I mapquested the info to be sure. Maybe double check those figures.... hey it's 57 miles to Laguna Beach.... I think that qualifies at less than 80 miles.

That's like living in Oklahoma in the DFW area.
Dallas to Durant OK is 94 miles.

Comparable locations to Texas are La Habra, San Dimas, Pasadena, Riverside, Corona. Even then you will be in a 2000 sf home for a much larger price.

NO argument here on the price or demographics, similar home or people in CA will cost 5x more than TX.... and that's on a low end.

[abbyt1980]

I'm moving back to Texas I can happily say, and if Californians want to come out and help the economy what the heck should anyone have to say about it?

When I briefly lived in Denver EVERYONE complained about the TEXANS AND CALIFORNIANS (it's funny how two very different types joined together in Colorado BECAUSE of all the hate towards us). They are two very populous states and chances are, we all will move around quite a bit. I say, come on down. Could be worse, they could be New Yorkers.... OK, just kidding, don't yell at me.

[pshinspections]

As one who lived in SoCal for 31 years, moved to Seattle for the dot-com boom and now is looking at DFW, I have found this thread informative. Sometimes funny, sometimes annoying, but all in all, a profit to this board. If I can stand the summer heat, DFW will remain in my sights. I think the change of climate and people would do me good, even if I sweat away 50 excess pounds (not a bad thing).

I lived in Austin for a short time in 1993, and didn't know anyone there so I hated it. But then I was single, now married with kids, and it sounds like my reasons for considering such a move match those of this thread's summary... COL and jobs. I heartily agree. The 2002-2004 recession was not as bad as the current economy, at least in WA state. The housing crash is the reason it is so bad now. That said, housing prices in WA have only retreated 5%. I am a degreed Accountant and am making contacts in TX at this time to pursue work there. What city? We'll see who gives the biggest TX-sized response to my resume. Thanks to all posters who contributed to this thread, even if a few did so in vain repetition.

[pshinspections]

Originally Posted by settledindfw

You should ask yourself how you ended up there. Did your parents move there because of their fascination to beaches? Or did they move because they had relatives?

My folks moved to CA in the late 50s for the bountiful economy, abundant jobs and moderate climate. Those jobs are gone.