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Old 05-26-2007, 12:13 AM
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Guerilla, you're trying to prove that Houston is a regional center, but you're actually proving that it has a national or international scope in certain areas, for certain industries, but not a regional one.

No, I don't believe that the Houston Science museum is the second most popular in America, nor that Houston has more theatre seats than Chicago or LA, let alone Dallas. I see no reason to accept your claim of Houston building more housing closer to its center.

Victory is part of Dallas' downtown, which is expanding to the north across the Woodall Rogers freeway. Lower McKinney Avenue is an extension of Dallas' downtown, as is the International district between Victory and LoMac. The national media that cover events at the Victory AA Center describe the arena as being in downtown Dallas.

The DFW area has about a dozen art museums, plus another dozen or two public gallery spaces. Houston is the Museum of Fine Arts, the Menil, the Contemporary Arts, a Hogg, and that's about it. AFAIK, Houston has no downtown museums, just an aquarium, whereas downtown Dallas has the Kennedy museum, the Dallas World Aquarium and zoo, the Conspiracy Museum, the County History museum, the Holocaust Museum, The DMA, the Nasher, the Crow Collection. Within walking distance, or a tram ride is the Latino Center, the McKinney Ave Contemporary, the MADI museum. Fair Park, about a couple of miles downtown, has another dozen or so museums, such as the Womens Museum, the Railroad museum, a couple of science museums, and others. In a couple of years there will be rail transit between downtown and Fair Park. FW has several good to great museums in its cultural district.

You trying to tell me about SF and San Jose. I used to commute from SF to the Silicon Valley, and the two places are most emphatically not seperated by a single street, but by over an hour of heavy traffic. Very few people commute that distance. There is very little economic or social interrelationship between San Jose and SF.

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Old 05-26-2007, 12:31 AM
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Hey, enough already, this is pointless. Both Dallas and Houston are great cities!!!

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Old 05-26-2007, 12:46 AM
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No... the issue is this...

What are the differences between Dallas and Houston?

Since people use this forum to decide which city to live in, they want to know what these differences are.

Houston's economy and core businesses are vastly different from DFW's. People have an interest in understanding the difference.

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Old 05-26-2007, 01:14 AM
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I was raised in Dallas, live in Austin, and work in Houston. It's truly amazing the level of vitriol between the people in Houston and the People in Dallas. It's also amazing how ignorant the people spouting out about their "opposing" city really are! In that respect, BOTH ARE THE SAME.

Since I have family in both cities, I hear it from both ends. The funny thing is, they say the exact same things!

In Houston, you hear how elitist Dallas is, how dirty it is (the Big Dump, they call it), how the people are so shallow and drive nice cars and dress up too much.

In Dallas, you hear how Houston is so polluted, smoggy and dirty, how people are shallow and elitist, dress up too much, and how the weather is so awful.

It is, frankly, one of the funniest things to observe. It's got all the endless back-and-forth of a religious debate, or a debate about which is better: PC or Mac.

I say, visit both and see for yourself. Differences? Yes, Houston is more humid, has more bugs. But it's also close to the coast, green and lush year round, and it's one of very few places in TX that don't see 100+ degrees in the summer. Dallas is bigger, if you consider the bazillion people in the 60 mile wide metro area. It's also got the bigger airport, and an actual winter. Culture-wise, Houston is more international and has more museums. Dallas has far more entertaining professional sports, roads are in better condition, zoning is better, and their rail system is much better. Houston has more HOV lanes. Both have bad traffic, and sprawl. The DFW sprawl is worse. The traffic in Houston is worse.

Both are diverse -- White, Hispanic, Black, and Asian populations are well represented.

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Old 05-26-2007, 04:30 AM
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No, I don't believe that the Houston Science museum is the second most popular in America, nor that Houston has more theatre seats than Chicago or LA, let alone Dallas. I see no reason to accept your claim of Houston building more housing closer to its center.

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The DFW area has about a dozen art museums, plus another dozen or two public gallery spaces. Houston is the Museum of Fine Arts, the Menil, the Contemporary Arts, a Hogg, and that's about it. AFAIK, Houston has no downtown museums, just an aquarium, whereas downtown Dallas has the Kennedy museum, the Dallas World Aquarium and zoo, the Conspiracy Museum, the County History museum, the Holocaust Museum, The DMA, the Nasher, the Crow Collection. Within walking distance, or a tram ride is the Latino Center, the McKinney Ave Contemporary, the MADI museum. Fair Park, about a couple of miles downtown, has another dozen or so museums, such as the Womens Museum, the Railroad museum, a couple of science museums, and others. In a couple of years there will be rail transit between downtown and Fair Park. FW has several good to great museums in its cultural district.
It is relatively easy, painless even, to look this information up. How you can dispute facts based on your own ignorance is beyond me, but okay! And as usual you people have to pull Ft. Worth out of your... hopefully this pointless thread will be closed soon. It needs to die a natural death.

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Old 05-26-2007, 04:56 AM
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FYI

About Houston Theater District
Learn more about the Houston Theater District with these fun facts!


Did you know...

• More than two million people visit the Houston Theater District annually to experience its magic and excitement.

• With 12,948 seats for live performances and 1,480 movie seats, the Houston Theater District ranks second behind New York City for the number of theater seats in a concentrated downtown area.

• Houston is one of only five cities in the United States with permanent professional resident companies in all of the major performing arts disciplines of opera, ballet, music and theater.

• The Alley Theatre received the 1996 Tony Award for best regional theatre.

• Houston Grand Opera is the only opera company in the U.S. to win a Grammy, a Tony and an Emmy.

• Houston Ballet is the fifth largest ballet troupe in the country and the youngest of the major national dance companies in America.

• The Houston Symphony performs more than 200 concerts throughout the world for more than 300,000 people each year.

• Theatre Under The Stars (TUTS) is the largest non-profit producer of musical theater in America. TUTS’ permanent downtown home—The Hobby Center for the Performing Arts—opened on May 10, 2002.

• The Alley Theatre began in 1947 when high school teacher Nina Vance sent out 214 postcards to friends and neighbors. The postcard read: “It’s beginning! Do you want a new theatre for Houston? Meeting. 3617 Main. Bring a friend! Tuesday, October 7, 8 p.m.” More than 100 “members” attended and the Alley was born. The Alley Theatre is located at 615 Texas Avenue.

• The Gus S. Wortham Center, located at the corner of Smith and Texas, opened in 1987 and is home to resident companies Houston Ballet and Houston Grand Opera. The Wortham Center is a 437,000 square-foot facility that could fit a six-story building into the Grand Foyer and three football fields on the roof. There is the same amount of wiring in Wortham Center as would be found in a 75-story office building. The construction of the Wortham Center was funded entirely by the private sector.

• Prior to performing in Jones Hall, the Houston Symphony called the City Auditorium home. The City Auditorium, now the site of Jones Hall, opened in 1910 and hosted cultural events, boxing matches, poultry exhibits, automobile shows, dances and conventions. The facility had deteriorated by 1962, and the Houston Endowment, a charitable foundation established by Jesse Jones, committed to building a new hall for the city. Four years later, the Jesse H. Jones Hall for the Performing Arts opened at 615 Louisiana Street.

• The Verizon Wireless Theater is located at the corner of Texas and Bagby in the Bayou Place entertainment complex. The theater can be set up in three distinctive seating arrangements—traditional theater rows, cabaret tables or standing room—depending on the nature of the performance.

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Old 05-26-2007, 05:54 AM
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We're being invaded by the Houstontonians...

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Old 05-26-2007, 06:25 AM
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Guerilla, you're trying to prove that Houston is a regional center, but you're actually proving that it has a national or international scope in certain areas, for certain industries, but not a regional one.
Fine...

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No, I don't believe that the Houston Science museum is the second most popular in America, nor that Houston has more theatre seats than Chicago or LA, let alone Dallas. I see no reason to accept your claim of Houston building more housing closer to its center.
How can you not believe me if it is fact?

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Victory is part of Dallas' downtown, which is expanding to the north across the Woodall Rogers freeway. Lower McKinney Avenue is an extension of Dallas' downtown, as is the International district between Victory and LoMac. The national media that cover events at the Victory AA Center describe the arena as being in downtown Dallas.
Well, the city of Dallas defines its Downtown as the area surrounded by the four freeways. Your opinion may be that DT Dallas is expanded north, but that isn't Downtown (by the City of Dallas).

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The DFW area has about a dozen art museums, plus another dozen or two public gallery spaces. Houston is the Museum of Fine Arts, the Menil, the Contemporary Arts, a Hogg, and that's about it. AFAIK, Houston has no downtown museums, just an aquarium, whereas downtown Dallas has the Kennedy museum, the Dallas World Aquarium and zoo, the Conspiracy Museum, the County History museum, the Holocaust Museum, The DMA, the Nasher, the Crow Collection. Within walking distance, or a tram ride is the Latino Center, the McKinney Ave Contemporary, the MADI museum. Fair Park, about a couple of miles downtown, has another dozen or so museums, such as the Womens Museum, the Railroad museum, a couple of science museums, and others. In a couple of years there will be rail transit between downtown and Fair Park. FW has several good to great museums in its cultural district.
The Dallas Zoo is in no way in DT Dallas. Yes, Houston just has an aquarium in its Downtown, but we have a Museum District where most of our museums are located. More than seven million people visit the MD every year. It is just a shot down the Red Line from Downtown Houston, too. The major museums in the Houston Museum District Are:

* Holocaust Museum Houston
* Children's Museum of Houston
* John P. McGovern Museum of Health & Medical Science
* Contemporary Arts Museum Houston
* The Museum of Fine Arts, Houston
* Museum of Natural Science
* The Buffalo Soldiers National Museum
* Byzantine Fresco Chapel Museum
* Rothko Chapel
* Houston Center for Contemporary Craft
* Houston Center for Photography
* John C. Freeman Weather Museum

Just outside of the Museum District:

* Art Car Museum
* Menil Collection
* National Museum of Funeral History
* Battleship Texas

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You trying to tell me about SF and San Jose. I used to commute from SF to the Silicon Valley, and the two places are most emphatically not seperated by a single street, but by over an hour of heavy traffic. Very few people commute that distance. There is very little economic or social interrelationship between San Jose and SF.
I will get the photo that shows the one boulevard separating the two MSA's.

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Old 05-26-2007, 06:31 AM
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Ok, so Houston is better, but I can't live there because it's the wrong industry make up for my chosen profession. Not sure how we determine a winner of this fued.

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Old 05-26-2007, 07:16 AM
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Ok, so Houston is better, but I can't live there because it's the wrong industry make up for my chosen profession. Not sure how we determine a winner of this fued.
Depends on what industry you are in. Medical/Astronomy/you work for an energy company, Houston is for you. If you work for an IT company, Dallas is for you. Dallas and Houston are more equal than different.

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