Living in Dallas without a car (Houston, Henderson: loans, how much, townhomes)

[kdogg817]

Aw maybe I will clarify I wasnt making a argument that your statement was wrong about dart expansion and etc.... I have heard about those plans just as you have. But comparing a far superior public transit system in NYC to a meager DFW public transporation system at this point in time is not plausible.

[aceplace]

Originally Posted by zatires

You have been doing that, trying to compare or similarize NYC public transport to Dallas.
With your own words you have said the following;



Claiming NYC has a few buses. WAHAHAHAHAA. You need to be laughed at.

Really? I think it's true that NYC has at least a few buses. Of course it has more...

You were comparing the NYC to Dallas. Unf...believable.

No, I wasn't.

If I lived in Brooklyn and wanted to go to Manhattan, Queens, Harlem, Downtown, Midtwon etc I don't ever need a car. Can do it very easily. Don't have to walk more than a couple of blocks. On the other hand if I lived in most parts of Dallas and wanted to go to Downtown or to Stemmons Freeway or to Victory Park etc, I will be walking many blocks on top of trying to find a bus that will take me to awkward places just so that I can take another bus and then continue walking.

If I lived in much of the New York metro, I would be taking many buses or trains over many different jurisdictions to try to get to the city. Paying $10 to Metro North for a 1 way ticket is no way to enjoy metropolitan life. Your alternative sucks.

City of Dallas in its existence with 1.2 million people can not even come close to the public transport that many other cities offer. Forget about NYC, Chicago, Boston, DC. Dallas is not even close to the public transport that European cities or the Canadian cities offer with similar or smaller populations.

That's because the people can't drive where they want to go. European and Canadian cities have a decidedly lower standard of living. The vast majority of people in transit dependent cities are poor and have no other alternative. Or in the case of NYC, the city can't let people drive and park like they want to do. So you have a vast influx of New York refugees to the sunbelt from the Bostons and New Yorks..

YOU need to accept the fact that public transport in Dallas blows big time.
Plain and simple as that. Stating that there is nothing wrong with DFW public transport is plain simple living in denial.

On the contrary, I'm looking forward to the near future when public transit in the DFW area will be much, much better. Actually, it's pretty good now.

This is an excessively car dependant city. Plain and simple.

That's because the vast majority of the American population wants to be able to easily drive to where they want to go.

It is a shame of DFW, one of the largest metroplexes in the USA. Dallas has around 42miles of light rail,

Baltimore, much smaller city has 30 miles
Denver, smaller city 40 miles
Pittsburg, 25 miles
Portland, much smaller city, 43 miles
Scaramento, much smaller city 40 miles
St Louis, smaller city 42 miles
San Diego, 51 miles
Santa Clara County 42 miles

Dallas will soon be far beyond them. But these cities are generally recognized as having excellent rail transit. Also, it should be noted that the DART service area is a small part of DFW, maybe about 2.5 million people.

Plain and simple, Dallas should have a much much better public transport system, considering its wast resources, cash rich businesses, new availability of planning, population etc. But at this stage public transport blows in Dallas, and with their crappy future plans not much improvement will be seen.

In view of the enormous growth of rail transit in the DFW area, I think you're dancing to a different drummer than the rest of us hear. I've put enough information out on the current and future expansion of the DFW transit agencies to pretty much invalidate anything you try to say.

[aceplace]

Zatires, you were foolish enough to blame DART for not building a rail line to Denton. You were obviously ignorant about the transit agencies in DFW and their respective responsibilities. Do you have an explanation as to why you came to such an asinine connclusion?

[aceplace]

Also, Zatires, you seemed to think that DART was supposed to build a rail line in the Fort Worth T's territory. Just how did you come up with that one? Do you honestly know what you're talking about?

[zatires]

Originally Posted by aceplace

Also, Zatires, you seemed to think that DART was supposed to build a rail line in the Fort Worth T's territory. Just how did you come up with that one? Do you honestly know what you're talking about?

Well it seems like you are the one who is clueless about the realities of the subject we are talking about. Living in your delusional word eh?

When I say and state I always back it up with official websites etc, so that you will know I am speaking the truth.

But you just write, and it is like air, pooof and it is gone. You have zero backing to it.

Now regarding DART, just because you are absolutely clueless and have zero knowledge, I should explain it to you, that your empty words may be filled.

DART is called Dallas Area Rapid Transit. It is not city specific, but how would you know? Clueless right

This is the official word from Dart website, if you had a clue, and had something more than air filled in, you would have known this as well. If Dart had a say and hand in building the Trinity Express, well they will go hand in hand with other cities as well in building light rail. They are more experienced than any other organization in the area, and will always be an acting partner with their know-how. But Dart has no news of any Fort Worth extensions to DFW etc, or anything about Denton, Lewisville and other cities.

Dallas Area Rapid Transit (DART) gets you around 13 cities with rail, bus, paratransit, HOV lanes and rideshare services. We serve DFW International Airport and Fort Worth via the Trinity Railway Express

As you can see I back up every statement I make, rather than making empty baloon statements you have been making (just like the CDS that are exploding in the financial world right now).

Did you read carefully up there?

IT SAYS; 13 CITIES!

So did you think Dart was only about Dallas, i gotta laugh hard, WAHAHAHAHAHA

So you can make claims, but until you back them up with official resources, all your claims are empty, air filled baloons. If you claim that Fort Worth will extend its 2 mile loop rail all the way to the airport, show the links, whatever, if you claim that Denton will build a rail track all the way to Carrolton, show it, so we can all get up to date information about what will happen in our city.

[aceplace]

DART covers a portion, about 1/3, of the DFW area, i.e. those cities that are able to dedicate a full penny in sales taxes to fund the DART system. About 2 1/2 million people live in its service area, and its service area is similar in population to San Diego or Portland, OR, both of which also have fine rail systems. It does not include any cities in Tarrant, Denton, Ellis, Johnson, Kaufmann or Rockwall counties, and the only Collin county city it iincludes is Plano. It is primarily a Dallas county system. The Fort Worth T covers Tarrant county, and the DCTA is responsible for Denton county. A seperate transit agency should be set up soon for Collin county.

Zatires, I wouldn't insult you by describing you as ignorant... let's just say you're not particularly knowledgable, on this particular subject.

[aceplace]

Zatires, since you mentioned the TRE...

What you do not know is that the TRE, the train between the Dallas and Fort Worth downtowns, is not part of DART, it is a separate transit agency, owned jointly by DART and the Fort Worth T. DART has some control over the TRE in Dallas county, but the FW T controls it in Tarrant county. The FW T built it in Tarrant county. I can't believe you're unaware of this, but apparently you are. What else don't you know, I wonder?

By the way, are you doubting that the DCTA, the Denton County Transit Authority, actually exists? You say it's not really there? Well, let's see what you do believe. For starters, do you believe that Denton county exists?

[Neonite]

Just be glad you dont live in The Colony or thereabouts. Nothing there

[TXLara]

Originally Posted by Neonite

Just be glad you dont live in The Colony or thereabouts. Nothing there

Yeah. I live farther north than that, and there isn't anything here either. And we're not on ANY proposed plan. I've put over 25,000 miles on my car in less than a year, and that's not commuting to work. That's just going to school, running errands, and visiting friends who happen to live on the opposite side of the city. I've only made one road trip in this time, and it was to Austin. DART bus does not run out in this area, and even if it did, I wouldn't ride it.

Let's say it did come out here. When I drive to Mesquite to visit a friend, it takes an hour with no traffic. If I took the bus, how long would that take? Because I have to get on *gasp* 635 going east during rush hour, which we all know is a huge no-no. So to meet her for dinner at 6, I'd have to leave at what, 2:30? 3?
Then when I want to leave her house, she'll have to drive me to a bus stop, wait with me until a bus gets there (because it will be around 10pm by this time), and then how long will it take me to get home? And what kind of people are going to be on that bus? It's not rush hour anymore, so I might get lucky and get home by midnight. So meeting a friend for 4 hours will have taken me 5.5 hours or so by bus. And then, I'll have to walk home from the bus stop after midnight. Yeah, I don't think so.

[aceplace]

Originally Posted by TXLara

Yeah. I live farther north than that, and there isn't anything here either. And we're not on ANY proposed plan. I've put over 25,000 miles on my car in less than a year, and that's not commuting to work. That's just going to school, running errands, and visiting friends who happen to live on the opposite side of the city. I've only made one road trip in this time, and it was to Austin. DART bus does not run out in this area, and even if it did, I wouldn't ride it.

Let's say it did come out here. When I drive to Mesquite to visit a friend, it takes an hour with no traffic. If I took the bus, how long would that take? Because I have to get on *gasp* 635 going east during rush hour, which we all know is a huge no-no. So to meet her for dinner at 6, I'd have to leave at what, 2:30? 3?
Then when I want to leave her house, she'll have to drive me to a bus stop, wait with me until a bus gets there (because it will be around 10pm by this time), and then how long will it take me to get home? And what kind of people are going to be on that bus? It's not rush hour anymore, so I might get lucky and get home by midnight. So meeting a friend for 4 hours will have taken me 5.5 hours or so by bus. And then, I'll have to walk home from the bus stop after midnight. Yeah, I don't think so.

If you lived on the outskirts of the NYC metro area, you'd have the same problem.