DALLAS vs. AUSTIN??? (liberal, music, woman)

[aceplace]

Originally Posted by zatires

Stats for Austin and Dallas (income)

Seems like slackers make more money than the 60hr workers.
(Data taken out of wikipedia)

Again, you're looking at the wrong stats. The appropriate units of measure would be numbers for metro Dallas-Ft Worth versus numbers for metro Austin.

Municipal level numbers prove nothing.

[Lakewooder]

When you have a much larger population, the per capita income goes down. And one of my houses in Dallas increased 359.1 % from 2003 to 2008 (according to DCAD).

If it means anything, I aspire to be a slacker some day.

[aceplace]

Originally Posted by padcrasher

"Dallas can offer a far greater diversity of concerts, museum shows, art films, career choices, types of people, national groups, shopping opportunities, New Urbanism neighborhoods, sporting events, etc., etc., ..."


As I said thread starter, didn't mention anything about this. She said she was an outdoor's type person.

So the census figures don't matter? We're just going on anecdotal stories??? Fine, having lived in the Dallas for decades and having been in Austin for 20 or 30 different times. I'd say I'd much rather be 30 ish in Austin having the time of my life.

You can go see your "art film's" and walk down McKinney hoping not to get jacked.

Oh, I think that these things were included in the poster's needs... such as a preference for bars and restaurants, and also the sorts of things you find in urban Los Angeles.

Going from the urban environment of LA to a place like Austin is like a descent into hick city. Dallas is a lot closer, in terms of the things a city can provide.

Outdoor activities and lakes? Dallas has plenty of lakes, hiking trails, plenty of outdoors...

[artsyguy]

lol you can say that again regarding Austin being a hick city lol hilarious but true....when I moved to Austin from Dallas I felt like my entire happiness just vanished because it was a boring hick city....

Originally Posted by aceplace

Oh, I think that these things were included in the poster's needs... such as a preference for bars and restaurants, and also the sorts of things you find in urban Los Angeles.

Going from the urban environment of LA to a place like Austin is like a descent into hick city. Dallas is a lot closer, in terms of the things a city can provide.

Outdoor activities and lakes? Dallas has plenty of lakes, hiking trails, plenty of outdoors...

[zatires]

Originally Posted by aceplace

Again, you're looking at the wrong stats. The appropriate units of measure would be numbers for metro Dallas-Ft Worth versus numbers for metro Austin.

Municipal level numbers prove nothing.

I think you have ZERO knowledge of statistics. Should have taken more stat courses in college

Comparisons should be made in similar population groups. Metro DFW is about 6 million people vs metro Austin of 1.5 million people. There is a ratio of 4 to 1. In statistics (if somebody actually learned) that kind of comparison within that ratio is not valid.

So you can compare the city of Dallas, to city of Austin where Dallas has population of 1.2m vs 800K for Austin. Much better ratio.

On top of that if a person lives in the city of Dallas, very unlikely he/she will travel to suburbs around of Dallas. There will be absolutely no reason to. Last time I went to W of I-35 was months and months ago, last time I have been to West of 360 was years ago (and there is a huge population west of 360). Or for that matter to Denton, Garland, South of I-30...

When you live in the immediate city surroundings you will have not much of a reason to travel to suburbia.

Comparing data within a population of 4 to 1 is a NO NO in statistics. I have to emphasize this one more time, just in case people will try to do it.

[zatires]

Originally Posted by aceplace

The flaw in your numbers is, of course, that you are not comparing people in their 20s to people in their 30s. You don't have the numbers for that.

Now if you had a number for 20-29, and 30-39, we could talk,

We can discuss this when you bring the data to here, and show to all of us. Instead of talking without numbers and trying to make non-baseless claims, why don't you bring the data to here?

Until you can prove your claims, we will state that with the data we have on hand, the demographics of Austin and Dallas is very very similar, the percentages of age groups are almost identical.

[aceplace]

Originally Posted by zatires

I think you have ZERO knowledge of statistics. Should have taken more stat courses in college

Very sorry to hear your opinion of me. I'm hurt.

Comparisons should be made in similar population groups. Metro DFW is about 6 million people vs metro Austin of 1.5 million people. There is a ratio of 4 to 1. In statistics (if somebody actually learned) that kind of comparison within that ratio is not valid.

I don't think so. Many things you can compare on scale up or down pretty well.

So you can compare the city of Dallas, to city of Austin where Dallas has population of 1.2m vs 800K for Austin. Much better ratio.

They represent very different samples, with different characteristics. You're trying to compare the inner 20% of one metro to more than 50% of another. Since the nature of the population changes the farther out from the center you go, you're comparing apples and oranges.

On top of that if a person lives in the city of Dallas, very unlikely he/she will travel to suburbs around of Dallas. There will be absolutely no reason to. Last time I went to W of I-35 was months and months ago, last time I have been to West of 360 was years ago (and there is a huge population west of 360). Or for that matter to Denton, Garland, South of I-30...

On the contrary, people living within the 635 loop travel all over for work, for play, for entertainment. Your personal experience is not automatically typical of everyone.

Comparing data within a population of 4 to 1 is a NO NO in statistics. I have to emphasize this one more time, just in case people will try to do it.

Not so... you can compare age distribution, political affiliation, dominant religions, purchasing power, and many other things very realistically.

And yes, you can compare the things that Dallas has, and tht Austin does not, and determine what you'd be missing out on if you find yourself in Austin instead of Dallas.

[Metro Matt]

Originally Posted by Lakewooder

Austin - 29.5 year old is a slacker

Exactly

Supposedly "continuing their education" because they partied way too much in their late teens/early 20's.

The comedy movie Van Wilder comes to mind when I think of Austin.

[Metro Matt]

Originally Posted by aceplace

Oh, I think that these things were included in the poster's needs... such as a preference for bars and restaurants, and also the sorts of things you find in urban Los Angeles.

Going from the urban environment of LA to a place like Austin is like a descent into hick city. Dallas is a lot closer, in terms of the things a city can provide.

Right on

It should be a no brainer that Dallas or Houston offer more of an "LA like" vibe than Austin, which is more on par with a much smaller city like San Jose.

Dallas has the LA attitude

Houston offers the cultural diversity & coastal setting of LA.

[CMDallas]

Originally Posted by Metro Matt

"Ghetto" is a world wide term & actually has its root meaning in Europe during the Nazi era. Your bigotry is not welcome on this forum.

Ghetto - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Its in modern Youth...
Ghetto means, or in the term of young people, sort of Gangster-ish or poor/trashy.
Its is an adjective. Some people use it to describe a neighborhood, object, or a person.
Such as Someone who is 'ghetto' is someone who is basically either poor and dresses sort of trashy, Gangster, or is into the Hip Hop scene, it can differ.
An object that is low quality or old can be 'ghetto'
or an neighborhood can be ghetto.
IT is generally associated with Chicanos and African Americans.
Sometimes people will start to associate areas as being ghetto is there many Latinos of Blacks around.
The definition has be altered, so I wouldn't call it bigotry if the context in which people use it in can imply an area with many African Americans.

Yes I know that that is not the actual meaning of ghetto. But it's how many new words are created, in fact many words are created by the misuse of a different words.