Segregation problem in Dallas or not??? (Fort Worth, Arlington: good schools, university, live in)

[Big G]

Originally Posted by Metro Matt

I can think of several that don't right off the top of my head...

1. Frisco
2. Plano
3. Allen
4. Mckinney
5. The Colony
6. Coppell

D/FW is more segregated than most people want to believe.

OK, let's go down that list, again using 2000 Census figures:
Frisco: 3.8%
Plano: 5.0%
Allen: 4.4%
McKinney: 7.2%
The Colony: 5.2%
Coppell: 3.3%

compare to:
University Park: 1.4%
Highland Park: 0.0%

Are those huge percentages? No, but they are not miniscule, either. For example, there are over 10,000 people that appear to disagree with you that Plano is not for blacks. Sizable numbers of current and former AA professional athletes make their homes in the northern burbs.

Really, the Park Cities is the only area where you are likely to find much, if any, discrimination again blacks. Now, economic segregation,...

[Grainraiser]

Originally Posted by Big G

OK, let's go down that list, again using 2000 Census figures:
Frisco: 3.8%
Plano: 5.0%
Allen: 4.4%
McKinney: 7.2%
The Colony: 5.2%
Coppell: 3.3%

compare to:
University Park: 1.4%
Highland Park: 0.0%

Are those huge percentages? No, but they are not miniscule, either. For example, there are over 10,000 people that appear to disagree with you that Plano is not for blacks. Sizable numbers of current and former AA professional athletes make their homes in the northern burbs.

Really, the Park Cities is the only area where you are likely to find much, if any, discrimination again blacks. Now, economic segregation,...

Agreed. I am a AA male and I would have no problem at living in the northern burbs. I know that there will be a smaller percentage of folks like me but I would not feel like I was alone. I am sure my kids would have friends of all races in any of the northern burbs. I can't say the same about HP/University Park because the diversity is simply not there.

[Acntx]

Originally Posted by KantLockeMeIn

So I guess the question is... do you want diversity, or do you want an area with a large concentration of people of your race? Most responders on here have assumed the latter, which to me isn't always synonymous with diversity.

Your point is similar to the one I was trying to make. The OP wanted to know if residential segregation was in issue in the area. I was trying to show the OP that even in a place with a larger percentage of African Americans, there is likely to be some degree of diversity in most of them. Outside of a few neighborhoods in the southern sector of Dallas, you aren't going to find communities that are 90%-100% African American. Many of the larger and mid-sized suburbs, especially those immediately surrounding Dallas, are less likely to be overwhelmingly one race or the other.

I live am an African American living in Lancaster, which has one of the highest percentages of African Americans in the Dallas-Fort Worth area, but I still consider it diverse because that majority is rather small (see below) and interaction with people of different ethnicities/cultures is common.

53.0% African American
37.6% White
0.5% Native American
0.4% Asian
0.1% Pacific Islander
6.6% Other
1.9% Two or more races

11.6% Hispanic or Latino (of any race)

[intense]

Originally Posted by KantLockeMeIn

Everyone is focusing on areas with a higher number of african americans... but the poster asked about diversity in general. Take Garland for instance... does it matter that it has 11.9% african americans, or does it matter that it has:

65.3% european americans
11.9% african americans
7.4% asian americans
12% other race
2.9% two or more races

and out of all of those, 25.6% hispanic background.

So I guess the question is... do you want diversity, or do you want an area with a large concentration of people of your race? Most responders on here have assumed the latter, which to me isn't always synonymous with diversity.

Good point!! I am definitely looking for DIVERSITY!! I want my children to be very well rounded! I appreciate all of the responses and knowing the percentage of AA in a community is helpful, however, it's even more helpful to know of communities that is TRULY diverse!! Thanks for the break down.

[lh_newbie]

In my experience, segregation in Dallas (and most any other city I've been in) has been more on socio-economic boundaries than anything else.

I live in Lake Highlands (N-E quadrant of Dallas) and would personally have no problem with an AA family moving next door. What's your price range and size of home you're looking at? Maybe we can provide better direction with additional info.

Brian

(ps: I grew up in the midwest - in Detroit - and from my recollection, there is more racism there than in Dallas)

[Acntx]

Originally Posted by intense

Good point!! I am definitely looking for DIVERSITY!! I want my children to be very well rounded! I appreciate all of the responses and knowing the percentage of AA in a community is helpful, however, it's even more helpful to know of communities that is TRULY diverse!! Thanks for the break down.

Here are the 2000 Census demographics for most of the cities in the Dallas area.


CITY..............WHITE...BLACK...AI/AN...ASIAN...NH/PI...OTHER...TWO+...HISPANIC*
Addison............68%.....10%.....<1%.....8%..... <1%.....11%.....4%......24%
Allen..............87%......4%......1%.....4%..... <1%......2%.....2%.......7%
Anna...............86%......1%......1%.....1%..... ........10%.....1%......28%
Arlington..........68%.....14%......1%.....6%..... <1%......9%.....3%......18%
Balch Springs......63%.....19%......1%.....1%..... <1%.....14%.....3%......26%
Bedford............88%......4%......1%.....4%..... <1%......2%.....2%.......7%
Carrollton.........72%......6%......1%....11%..... <1%......8%.....3%......20%
Cedar Hill.........57%.....34%......1%.....2%..... <1%......5%.....2%......12%
Celina.............77%......9%.....<1%....<1%..... ........11%.....2%......23%
Cockrell Hill......45%......2%......1%....<1%..... <1%.....50%.....3%......84%
Coppell............83%......3%.....<1%.....9%..... <1%......2%.....2%.......7%
Corinth............89%......4%......1%.....2%..... <1%......2%.....2%.......6%
Dallas.............51%.....26%......1%.....3%..... <1%.....17%.....3%......36%
Denton.............76%......9%......1%.....3%..... <1%......9%.....2%......16%
DeSoto.............49%.....46%.....<1%.....1%..... <1%......3%.....1%.......7%
Duncanville........64%.....25%.....<1%.....2%..... <1%......7%.....2%......15%
Euless.............76%......7%......1%.....7%..... .2%......5%.....3%......13%
Fairview...........94%.....<1%......1%.....2%..... .........1%.....2%.......4%
Farmers Branch.....78%......2%......1%.....3%..... <1%.....13%.....3%......37%
Ferris.............68%.....22%.....<1%.....1%..... .........7%.....2%......28%
Flower Mound.......90%......3%.....<1%.....3%..... <1%......2%.....2%.......6%
Forney.............84%......7%......1%....<1%..... <1%......6%.....2%......10%
Fort Worth.........60%.....20%......1%.....3%..... <1%.....14%.....3%......30%
Frisco.............87%......4%.....<1%.....2%..... <1%......4%.....2%......11%
Garland............65%.....12%......1%.....7%..... <1%.....12%.....3%......26%
Glenn Heights......67%.....25%......1%....<1%..... <1%......5%.....2%......16%
Grand Prairie......62%.....14%......1%.....4%..... <1%.....16%.....3%......33%
Grapevine..........88%......2%......1%.....3%..... <1%......5%.....2%......12%
Heath..............95%......1%.....<1%.....1%..... <1%......1%.....1%.......3%
Highland Park......97%.....<1%.....<1%.....1%..... <1%......1%.....1%.......3%
Highland Village...94%......2%.....<1%.....2%..... <1%......1%.....1%.......4%
Hurst..............86%......4%......1%.....2%..... <1%......5%.....2%......11%
Hutchins...........43%.....37%......1%....<1%..... <1%.....15%.....3%......24%
Irving.............64%.....10%......1%.....8%..... <1%.....13%.....3%......31%
Lake Dallas........90%......3%......1%.....1%..... <1%......4%.....2%......10%
Lancaster..........38%.....53%......1%....<1%..... <1%......7%.....2%......12%
Lewisville.........77%......7%......1%.....4%..... <1%......8%.....3%......18%
Little Elm.........79%......3%......1%.....1%..... <1%.....14%.....2%......23%
Lucas..............96%.....<1%......1%....<1%..... <1%......1%.....1%.......4%
Mansfield..........86%......4%......1%.....1%..... <1%......6%.....2%......13%
McKinney...........78%......7%......1%.....2%..... <1%.....10%.....2%......18%
Melissa............90%......1%.....<1%.....1%..... .........8%.....1%......13%
Mesquite...........74%.....13%......1%.....4%..... <1%......6%.....2%......16%
Midlothian.........91%......3%......1%.....1%..... <1%......4%.....2%......13%
Murphy.............76%.....10%......1%.....9%..... .........2%.....2%.......5%
Ovilla.............92%......5%.....<1%.....1%..... <1%......1%.....1%.......3%
Parker.............90%......2%......1%.....1%..... <1%......3%.....2%.......7%
Plano..............78%......5%.....<1%....10%..... <1%......4%.....2%......10%
Princeton..........91%......1%......1%....<1%..... <1%......4%.....2%......11%
Prosper............92%.....<1%......1%....<1%..... <1%......5%.....1%......19%
Red Oak............86%......5%......1%.....1%..... .........5%.....3%......12%
Richardson.........75%......6%.....<1%....12%..... <1%......4%.....3%......10%
Rockwall...........91%......3%.....<1%.....1%..... <1%......3%.....1%.......6%
Rowlett............82%......9%......1%.....3%..... <1%......4%.....2%.......9%
Royse City.........79%......8%......1%.....1%..... ........10%.....3%......21%
Sachse.............87%......5%......1%.....2%..... <1%......3%.....2%.......8%
Seagoville.........79%.....10%......1%.....1%..... <1%......8%.....3%......18%
Southlake..........95%......1%.....<1%.....2%..... <1%......1%.....1%.......4%
Sunnyvale..........90%......3%......1%.....5%..... .........2%.....1%.......4%
Terrell............55%.....32%.....<1%.....1%..... <1%.....10%.....2%......18%
The Colony.........85%......5%......1%.....2%..... <1%......5%.....3%......13%
University Park....94%......1%.....<1%.....2%..... <1%......1%.....1%.......3%
Waxahachie.........70%.....17%......1%....<1%..... <1%......9%.....2%......20%
Westlake...........95%......2%.................... .........2%..............1%
Wilmer.............48%.....23%......1%....<1%..... ........25%.....3%......42%
Wylie..............91%......2%......1%.....1%..... <1%......4%.....2%......10%

AI/AN = American Indian and Alaska Native
NH/PI = Native Hawaiian and Other Pacific Islander
TWO+ = Two or more races
<1% = Population of less than one percent
*= Hispanic or Latino (of any race)

[LStrom]

Hi all,
I am also moving from the midwest in large part because of the racial segregation here(Chicago). I'm excited to find out that there are plenty of diverse neighborhoods to choose from in Dallas, but what about the schools? I have a 10 y/o and the quality of school is our top priority. Which of these diverse areas has the best schools? We are looking to buy a house for about 150k, so the area would have to fit our budget.

[Grainraiser]

On average the higher the price of the home the better the school will be. This is not always the case but it will be pretty close. Your budget will give you quite a few options and it really depends on what part of town you work in. I live in my Mesquite and have a 12 year old. His elementary & middle school are both recognized schools and both are very diverse. You could buy a less than 5 year old home or build new for $150k. There are certainly other communities that could fit the bill.

[Big G]

If you're OK with a 70s home, you could easily score a house for that price in the Richardson ISD and several parts of the Plano ISD, both highly-rated school districts.

[southern living]

Originally Posted by lh_newbie

In my experience, segregation in Dallas (and most any other city I've been in) has been more on socio-economic boundaries than anything else.

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is DFW segregated?
yes, ofcourse

In general, if you look at the north/south differences, you could say that yes, it is economic.

but if you look at individual cities, then its clear it goes beyond socio-economic segregation.

for example, McKinney and Desoto are almost similar in terms of median income, yet mckinney is white (mostly) and Desoto AA.

Even within south-west dallas county you will find segregation. Midlothian, red oak, ovilla are mostly white and lancaster, cedar hill, duncanville mostly minorities

I think people make a conscious or unconscious decision to live in a mostly homogenious racial communities