Are People in Dallas Really More Snotty than People in Houston?? (Garland: school, airport)

[rickca]

Wouldn't LA be the capital of the southwest? Its about as far south-west as you can get in the U.S. and much bigger than any of the Texas cities.

[zatires]

Originally Posted by rickca

Wouldn't LA be the capital of the southwest? Its about as far south-west as you can get in the U.S. and much bigger than any of the Texas cities.

Well considering Dallas planned itself to be just like LA, trying to copy LA, and even try to act like LA, it is normal to hear Dallasites claiming Dallas is the capital of SouthWest

[aceplace]

Originally Posted by rickca

Wouldn't LA be the capital of the southwest? Its about as far south-west as you can get in the U.S. and much bigger than any of the Texas cities.

"The Southwest" in this context is actually the so-called south-central group of states, more or less including New Mexico, Oklahoma, Texas, Arkansas and Louisiana. This region has the area and population of a decent=sized European country.

Dallas-Ft Worth is the distribution center for wholesalers, it is one of the so-called Federal sub-capitals for the Federal government, it contains most of the corporate branch offices that supervise business activity in the south-central states, it is a media capital, it has the biggest and most active airport for connections to the rest of the United States, etc., etc.,

[grindin]

Originally Posted by aceplace

"The Southwest" in this context is actually the so-called south-central group of states, more or less including New Mexico, Oklahoma, Texas, Arkansas and Louisiana. This region has the area and population of a decent=sized European country.

Dallas-Ft Worth is the distribution center for wholesalers, it is one of the so-called Federal sub-capitals for the Federal government, it contains most of the corporate branch offices that supervise business activity in the south-central states, it is a media capital, it has the biggest and most active airport for connections to the rest of the United States, etc., etc.,

Atlanta and Chicago have busier airports than DFW and Denver's airport is larger in land area. Epic FAIL.

Also CNN/Turner Broadcasting are based in Atlanta and I think it would be more of a media capital than D/FW, even if D/FW is a larger television market.

Also, whoever described Houston as "provincial" compared to Dallas was hilarious. Houston is one of the more diverse cities in the country and has a large seaport that has international traffic.

Dallas, OTOH seems to be a bit more provincial from what I've gathered. Not provincial in the Tyler or Shreveport sense, but provincial in the sense that people there seem to think it is the be all and end all. Of course, I think Angelenos and New Yorkers are pretty provincial in that sense too, so take that FWIW.


BTW, cities that are really world class don't need to whine and shout it from the rooftops, they just are. This goes for other cities too.

[Topaz]

Originally Posted by Willy-Bill

Lived in both and currently Dallas. I'll take Houston in a heartbeat for friendly people.

Third that.

[aceplace]

Originally Posted by grindin

Atlanta and Chicago have busier airports than DFW and Denver's airport is larger in land area. Epic FAIL.

Atlanta and Chicago are the capitals of their respective regions as well. Dallas is to Texas and surrounding states as Atlanta is to the Southeast.

Also CNN/Turner Broadcasting are based in Atlanta and I think it would be more of a media capital than D/FW, even if D/FW is a larger television market.

Maybe, maybe not. But Atlanta is not in Texas or the South-central states.

Also, whoever described Houston as "provincial" compared to Dallas was hilarious. Houston is one of the more diverse cities in the country and has a large seaport that has international traffic.

Many provincial cities are also ethnically diverse, and Houston has a diminished role in Texas and the South-Central states compared to Dallas. Other countries have seaports with international traffic, but are out of the orbit of their major city. Santos, Brazil is provincial compared to Sao Paolo, but is a seaport with international connections. Also look at Seoul, Korea and Inchon, its provincial seaport, London and Liverpool, etc.

Dallas, OTOH seems to be a bit more provincial from what I've gathered. Not provincial in the Tyler or Shreveport sense, but provincial in the sense that people there seem to think it is the be all and end all. Of course, I think Angelenos and New Yorkers are pretty provincial in that sense too, so take that FWIW.

That's not the usual definition of provincial. LA and New York are not provincial in scope, they are national in scope. Dallas, Atlanta, Philadelphia, etc., are regional in scope, but are the principal cities of their regions

BTW, cities that are really world class don't need to whine and shout it from the rooftops, they just are. This goes for other cities too.

I don't see Dallas doing that. Its Visitors Bureau has a list of places to go and things to do, but does not exaggerate the importance of the city.

[Lakewooder]

Originally Posted by zatires

Here is a snotty and arrogant Dallasite.
Definitely fits the profile

What is funny is the arrogance and ignorance is so out there, it becomes laughable

Dallas is capital of southwest? What is southwest capital of?
NADA!

What can you expect from a person who tried to compare the NYC transit to DFW transit?

Dallas is just another city in the USA. It is bigger than most counterparts, but still has the same structure like hundreds of other US cities.
Spread out
Big area
Long commute
etc etc

Has no significance at all compared to world cities. If you ask a foreigner what Dallas is, most likely he will say "TV series" and it is a fact. Majority of the world population has no clue about Dallas, it is only some of the snotty Dallasites who think world revolves around the (gotta laugh WAHAHAHA).

If you ask a person in Dallas what Cairo resembles, they will answer with the significance of Egypt and Cairo (pyramids, history etc).
You ask a person in Cairo about Dallas, he will say "Who shot JR?"
The same can be said for the people of Paris, London, Lisbon, Venice, Milan, Seoul, Tokyo, and etc.

That is the reality of it all. Even in the US, Dallas does not have much of a significance or fame, most people call Dallas "The Wannabe Los Angeles", even the guy who designed Beverly Hills was asked to design Highland Park back in the time.

From the old times of Dallas, the city just was trying to be something they are not, the attitude most likely comes from their, trying to copy another city, trying to copy the citizens of another city, etc.

But in reality even in US, Dallas does not have much of a signifance in people's eyes and minds. I am sure most students outside of Texas and Oklahoma can not even pinpoint Dallas in a map. Same goes for the rest of the world.

Until the Dallasites realize this truth they will keep on their snotty attitudes

I guess you are unfamiliar with the history of Neiman-Marcus.

[grindin]

Originally Posted by aceplace

I don't see Dallas doing that. Its Visitors Bureau has a list of places to go and things to do, but does not exaggerate the importance of the city.

And yet this seems to happen quite a bit by people who work for the CVB on this very board. Not naming any names though...no siree bob

No one is denying Dallas' importance as a city, because we're reminded of that quite a bit on here. That being said, lets not 'sell' Dallas as something that it isn't. It's not Chicago, it's not SF, DC, or [insert random, historic high-density city here]. And you know what? That's perfectly fine. Every city isn't supposed to be the same. It's a mainly auto-oriented sunbelt-boomtown developed mainly from Postwar-era America on until today. It provides great career opportunities and affordable, nice housing for many people getting away from the cold.

I'm trying to tell my fellow Atlanta bretheren these things too. I don't care how close we are to the Northeast, we are not the Northeast!

[aceplace]

Originally Posted by grindin

And yet this seems to happen quite a bit by people who work for the CVB on this very board. Not naming any names though...no siree bob

I see. You claim to know the people on this board who are employees of the Dallas CVB. Now how in the name of the holy would you know something like that? Are you psychic? Good at reading the tea leaves, are you?

At least you don't take it to the point of being a conspiracy theory weirdo.

Give it up, Grindin. You'll be Grindin your teeth down to stubs if you keep it up. My characterization of Dallas as a principal city of its region is geographically and sociologically accurate and I also see its people's social behavior as consistent with that basic fact. They aren't pretentious ... they're genuine... because they genuinely act as sophisticated citizens of a capital city, not like some sort of provincial bumpkins.

No one is denying Dallas' importance as a city, because we're reminded of that quite a bit on here. That being said, lets not 'sell' Dallas as something that it isn't. It's not Chicago, it's not SF, DC, or [insert random, historic high-density city here]. And you know what? That's perfectly fine. Every city isn't supposed to be the same. It's a mainly auto-oriented sunbelt-boomtown developed mainly from Postwar-era America on until today. It provides great career opportunities and affordable, nice housing for many people getting away from the cold.

This is completely off post and irrelevant to this thread. No one is comparing Dallas to Chicago here. We are comparing Dallas to Houston and other Texas cities in terms of social attitudes. Get back on post.

[grindin]

Originally Posted by aceplace

I see. You claim to know the people on this board who are employees of the Dallas CVB. Now how in the name of the holy would you know something like that? Are you psychic? Good at reading the tea leaves, are you?

At least you don't take it to the point of being a conspiracy theory weirdo.

It was a joke, lighten up. Guess I touched a nerve...