Are All the Newer Homes in Plano and surrounding Towns within a 10-15 Miles all HOAs? (Dallas: real estate, foreclose)

[RobbBrown21]

Folks,

I was running a search on realtor.com and noticed that all of the homes that I liked in the Plano area and nearby towns such as Frisco, Rowlett, Little Elm, Allen, all seemed to be HOAs. Is this a norm on the newer homes with HOA subdivisions. Are there newer homes that are HOA Optional within Plano and nearby towns within a10 - 15 mile radius that are not mandatory or not HOA at all?

Currently living in an HOA that is extremely restrictive, and wish not not live in another home with any kind of by-laws. Any help or suggestions you can offer would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks.

[HockeyDadof2]

If I am not mistaken, and I very well could be, a while back most suburban cities started requiring mandatory HOAs to be part of new residential developments.

[momof2dfw]

^^^Yes, most cities made all developers put an HOA in place for all developments about 10-15 years ago. There are a FEW areas that are not and those will probably have a VOLUNTARY Neighborhood Association but these are going to be VERY FEW and far between and may be on a VERY LOW price point. This is totally different in that it is not mandatory and it functions solely on donations and there will be NO common areas or neighborhood amenities strictly for residents like a clubhouse or pool.

One of the newer ones by me that is a voluntarly NA is The Greens which is in Garland and right next to Firewheel (golf course and Firewheel neighborhoods). There are homes in there that are around 10 years of age and then older. The older homes are custom and the area is VERY NICE and highly desirable, VERY WELL KEPT! The newer homes were built by builders that built in neighobrhoods with higher price points and a mandatory HOA. So it is very nice. The mayor and district city council person both live in this neighborhood. Fyi, this is within the 10 mile distance to Plano (in fact MUCH lower than 10 miles).

[RobbBrown21]

Thanks so much Momof2DfW, very good information to know for sure so that I know what I am dealing with. I saw some incredible looking homes in Frisco and was excited until I saw that it was an HOA. Just the idea that an HOA can foreclose on my home is a scary thought in this day and age and change by-laws to prevent my from renting my home doesn't work for me.

If there are some real estate professionals out there who are aware of newer homes with either a voluntary or no HOA at please direct messages me and steer me in the right direction. I am specifically looking in the North Dallas area and suburbs such as Plano, Frisco and maybe other areas with a 10 mile radius of Plano that I may not be aware of since I am in Chicago and not that familar with all of the North Dallas suburbs.

Thanks.

[88txaggie]

Hi Robb - Hunters Creek Estates 75023 has a voluntary HOA whose only function is to maintain the entrance to the little subdivision. I don't know about the other little subdivisions right around here, but Plano itself handles a lot of what I consider HOA concerns - keeping yards mowed and neat, deed restrictions on what you can and can't add to the property (approval for fences, etc).

[RobbBrown21]

Thanks 88 so much for the information. If I can't get a brand new home in North Dallas without an HOA, I will just have to settle for an older home without an HOA and just make it what I want the new home to be. HOA is a very strange thing to wrap my head around since I am coming from Chicago where we have tons of expensive desired neighborhoods where folks take care of their properties without some type of oversight of folks who happen to be your neighbors. Again, a very strange setup for me. I can understand the need for an HOA for a condo or townhome, but not a detached property. Here in places like Evanston, near Northwestern University, the village or township can fine you if you don't take care of things like your yard and garbage. Again, the thing t hat bothers me is paying an extra fee to have an over zealous neighbor possibly fine me for something unscrupulous.

I am positive with the help of a good real estate agent, I will be able to find my ideal property in the area without an HOA breathing down my back.

Thanks everyone for your help and assitance.

[FarNorthDallas]

Our [older] neigborhood has a voluntary HOA. There were a couple of neighborhoods near us, all older now too, but this was back when it was all new, that had mandatory HOAs because they had community pools and tennis courts. I'm talking late 1960s. But as the years go on and the kids grow up and the original owners don't care anymore about having a community pool and they don't want to pay for it anymore and this all becomes a problem. Both HOAs sold their community centers and now they are private and anyone can pay several hundred dollars a year to join.

Back then neighborhoods were built in such a way it was possible to sell these things without being a problem logistically. Nowadays the new HOA neighborhoods, it will be tough to spin off those swimming pools as the neighborhoods are more enclosed. (And of course residents just can't imagine that ever happening to their neighborhoods, but who thinks that far in the future?)

[momof2dfw]

Originally Posted by RobbBrown21

steer me in the right direction. I am specifically looking in the North Dallas area and suburbs such as Plano, Frisco and maybe other areas with a 10 mile radius of Plano that I may not be aware of since I am in Chicago and not that familar with all of the North Dallas suburbs.

Thanks.

The area (The Greens) I mentioned is Northeast of Dallas and right next to Plano and falls well within the "10 mile radius". Newer homes, NO HOA, easy access to 190, great schools, GREAT parks right next to it, a golf course across the street from it, close to a lot of new shopping, mall, restaurants, etc. It is in the 75044 zip code and you will find a wide range of homes a little less than 10 years of age to 20 year old WELL CARED for custom homes. Only problem is going to be that there are not a lot of people moving out of the area as they tend to "stay put" as they actually like and enjoy where they live.

[RobbBrown21]

Originally Posted by momof2dfw

The area (The Greens) I mentioned is Northeast of Dallas and right next to Plano and falls well within the "10 mile radius". Newer homes, NO HOA, easy access to 190, great schools, GREAT parks right next to it, a golf course across the street from it, close to a lot of new shopping, mall, restaurants, etc. It is in the 75044 zip code and you will find a wide range of homes a little less than 10 years of age to 20 year old WELL CARED for custom homes. Only problem is going to be that there are not a lot of people moving out of the area as they tend to "stay put" as they actually like and enjoy where they live.

Thanks momof2dfw - very good information and yes, I can't blame them for staying put. The Greens sounds exactly like the kind of neighborhood that I am looking for where I can stay put as well. I will definitely keep my eye on it and you never know when something may open up. A custom home would be so ideal. Thanks for including the zip code that will certainly help me out a lot.

[RobbBrown21]

Originally Posted by momof2dfw

The area (The Greens) I mentioned is Northeast of Dallas and right next to Plano and falls well within the "10 mile radius". Newer homes, NO HOA, easy access to 190, great schools, GREAT parks right next to it, a golf course across the street from it, close to a lot of new shopping, mall, restaurants, etc. It is in the 75044 zip code and you will find a wide range of homes a little less than 10 years of age to 20 year old WELL CARED for custom homes. Only problem is going to be that there are not a lot of people moving out of the area as they tend to "stay put" as they actually like and enjoy where they live.

Hi MOMof2dfw, is theThe Greens of Firewheel, the same as the GREENS? If so, I just found a few properties in that area and took a virtual tour and from what I saw, this place looks great. I had not even considered Garland, but I have to say thanks again for helping me to open my mind to a town that wasn't even on my list. As they say, ask and you shall receive. Thanks so much!