02-25-2009, 11:15 AM
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Hi All - My husband and I (along with our 5yr old daughter) are contemplating a move from the chicago suburbs to the DFW area. We looked in McKinney for a while, but decided to widen our search. I happened across Lakes of La Cima online. Homes are by Gallery Custom Homes. They seem to have a lot to offer for the money. We are in the $220-$300k price range.
Anyone know anything about this development? Good lot size? Nice area? New or mature trees, parks, etc. I hear prosper schools are excellent - true? Anything else you wish to share is greatly appreciated.
We are planning a trip down soon and are trying to identify 3-4 communities worth looking at.
Thanks!
02-25-2009, 12:52 PM
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We recently moved into Celina, about 5 miles north of Prosper. We like it a lot. Both have very good schools as does Frisco to the south. From a school standpoint, I'd stay away from McKinney as they tend to bus kids around too much. Celina and Prosper are fairly rural whereas Frisco is very developed but very nice. The development in Prosper that you mentioned is very nice... there are several nice ones within a few miles of that. It really depends on where you/your husband work and how far you want to commute. I live in Celina and work in Plano with a 25 minute commute.
02-25-2009, 01:07 PM
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The neighborhood is nice. (I live just a few miles away from it.) I think they may actually even have cows that back up to that neighborhood. I guess that could be a plus or minus depending on how you look at it. I don't have any info. regarding Prosper schools. Shopping wise the neighborhood is close to a Super Walmart (it is actually nice), about 8 miles to a Super Target located Hwy 380. The neighborhood is close to the North Dallas Toll which is a plus. IMO the only negative part is there is no decent grocery store on 380. There are also other neighborhoods in the northern section of Stonebridge Ranch that are also in your price range: Wren Creek, Mayberry, Liberty, and Ridgecrest (not actually in SBR but is attached). Happy house hunting! You will have tons of options when you get here.
02-25-2009, 02:15 PM
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Take a look at this info about
Gallery Custom Homes that has been posted on this forum in the past. GCH sounds like a lot of flash for a price that would buy you a multitude of heartburn and heartache.
Caveat emptor !
Click on this site and enter
Gallery Custom Homes in the search window. Be sure to scroll to the bottom of the thread page(s) to see other people's responses to their experience with GCH.
Ripoff Report: By Consumers, For Consumers
City-Data.com/Dallas thread
http://www.city-data.com/forum/dalla...s-homes-2.html
Lakes of La Cima web site: Homes from the $290s. GCH is
not listed as a builder on the web site. In light today's of credit crunch, etc., GCH could have acquired a toe-hold in the development for whatever reason.
Lakes of La Cima (http://www.lakesoflacima.com/LoLC02.html - broken link)
Plat map (phase three) of Lakes of La Cima. See lot sizes here.
http://maps.taxnetusa.com/collin_maps_pdf/8766.pdf
Yahoo overhead map of LoLC
Yahoo! Maps, Driving Directions, and Traffic
Good Luck.
02-25-2009, 10:22 PM
Location: Georgia native in McKinney, TX
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I have a close friend in this neighborhood and they are very happy. I have been in the home and it is beautiful. Prosper schools are good, building a new High School that will rival anything in all of Dallas.
Many of the new developments in this part of Collin County are on what used to be wide opened fields so don't be surprised at the lack of mature trees. In this regard, Stonebridge Ranch in McKinney is one of the nicest developments in all of Collin County as they put a lot of effort into green space, saving trees and planting trees. It has been around long enough for many of the trees to have reached a level of maturity. It doesn't feel like a prairie with mile after mile of nothing but rooftops like you see in much of the rest of this part of Collin.
Please take the previous slight on McKinney ISD with a grain of salt. My kids are in McKinney schools and they are receiving an excellent education. Most elementary schools are within walking distance of homes, my son takes a short bus ride to middle school but still is close enough to bike or walk. Just look at the school maps in relationship to the homes you are considering. Most of the busing is to bring economically disadvantaged kids from the far east side of McKinney to the nicer areas on the west side, not the reverse.
www.mckinneyisd.net
02-26-2009, 12:17 AM
Location: SE Michigan
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I think Lakes of Lacima is very nice. We almost bought in Lakes of Lacima but ended up in Lakes of Prosper. Lacima is closer to being built out . Lakes of Prosper is still in phase one and has far less homes in it although for an economy slowing down I still saw 3 sold signs go up just this week in Lakes of Prosper. Since Lakes of Prosper is new and they are trying to establish it we found the builders were more willing to deal which is why we ended up there. We bought in summer of 07. Both have a community pool, both have ponds. (I can't call them lakes coming from Michigan). Lacima has more mature trees. Lakes of Prosper is closer to the tollway, and to the high school. Not any mature trees in Lakes of Prosper, some in Lacima. A new park is planned for the empty field directly behind Lakes of Prosper, as is a new football stadium. They are both expected to be excellent facilities. The new school will be unbelievable in terms of size and quality of the facility. I think it will rival any school on those terms anywhere (Texas or elsewhere). I believe they are spending about 220 mill. They are also adding many educational tracks including more advanced AP classes (needed compared to what is available now) and a vocational track (also needed). As far as the quality of education? That’s up for debate. I'd say it’s a good school but from what I've seen maybe not as academically rigorous as some of the schools I was exposed to where we came from or from say a place like Plano (where a kid can come out with a Cisco certification if they want to). Although having said that I see that many go on to college and must do well. This is anecdotal but I also wonder about grade inflation. My son is a junior and carries a 3.78 GPA he is in physics and pre calc. He's the only junior in his pre calc class and one of only a few juniors in his physics class. His class ranking is about 80th out of about 150 which means more than half the kids have a higher GPA but not too many of them are in the same classes he is. In my day when there was an honest 4.0 grading scale a 3.78 was an excellent achievement, but when more than half the kids score higher it makes me wonder. Personally I think the Pre AP classes which grade on a 4.5 basis are responsible for skewing the GPAs. I don't believe from what I've seen the Pre AP classes are distinguishably different than the non AP versions of the class, maybe a bit more homework. Based on this I think a lot of grade padding was done from 9th grade on with these pre AP classes. Since my kid started here in the 10th grade he missed a whole year of Pre AP classes. Prosper also has AP classes which grade on a 5.0 basis. However I will say I had exposure to the Pre AP history class and it was very challenging and the teacher excellent. Sports are big here as well. That’s good and bad (again just my opinion) good because there is high participation rates and a fair amount of success, but bad because frankly I think athletes are a bit coddled in the school, and given a bit hero status (which is just a personal nit of mine). Again just my opinion, and not unique to Prosper. All things considered I don’t want to paint a negative picture of the schools, because as I've said I think they are good, but I don't want to fall in lock step and just blurt out (like the real estate agents will) "they're excellent" without trying to give some type of balanced feedback. I hardly think what I've said is unique to Prosper schools. Also being somewhat new to Texas I'm not sure what the gold standard of excellence is to compare our school to.
Two more anecdotes to leave you with regarding education:
#1
The generation that put us on the moon was mostly poor and educated in small or one room school houses without computer labs. Today we spend millions upon millions. Are the results commensurately better?
#2
I met a nice lady from India while taking a Novell CNA class about 10 years ago. We got to talking and I found out her husband was the chair of the math department at "The" Ohio State University (sarcasm intended for all the buckeye readers). Her daughter was a PhD student at Princeton in Math and Physics. I told her I knew of many other folks from India as well who were high achievers in math and science and so I finally asked her what the secret was. She told me that in India we are a poor country but we have pencil and paper to do math with, and that's how we learned. That comment always stuck with me and I remember it whenever I hear of any school asking for more money.
Anyhow, I digress.
Come to Prosper you'll love it!
Regards
10-05-2009, 02:47 PM
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My husband and I are being transferred to the Dallas area before the end of the year. We visited several subdivisions while in the Prosper, Frisco, and Plano area over the weekend. We are interested in one of the Gallery Homes in Lakes of La Cima which will be completed by the end of the month. I would really like to speak to anyone that has a Gallery home in the Lake La Cima subdivision in regards to feedback. What is your experience and what is your opinion of the workmanship? Please help, we are running out of time!
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10-07-2009, 02:40 AM
Location: Dallas/Fort Worth, Texas
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My husband and I are being transferred to the Dallas area before the end of the year. We visited several subdivisions while in the Prosper, Frisco, and Plano area over the weekend. We are interested in one of the Gallery Homes in Lakes of La Cima which will be completed by the end of the month. I would really like to speak to anyone that has a Gallery home in the Lake La Cima subdivision in regards to feedback. What is your experience and what is your opinion of the workmanship? Please help, we are running out of time!
You need to drive around the neighborhood and knock on doors.
Gallery is a custom product of First Texas Homes. They build really nice homes although they used to have a really bad salesperson. I hope he's not there anymore.
Make sure you have a buyer's agent represent you. It doesn't cost you anything.
Naima
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Most Common Occupations - Production, transportation, and material moving occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Production occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Transportation occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Material moving occupations (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutionalized population (%)
People in Group quarters - Correctional institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Federal prisons and detention centers (%)
People in Group quarters - Halfway houses (%)
People in Group quarters - Local jails and other confinement facilities (including police lockups) (%)
People in Group quarters - Military disciplinary barracks (%)
People in Group quarters - State prisons (%)
People in Group quarters - Other types of correctional institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Nursing homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals/wards, hospices, and schools for the handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals/wards and hospices for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospices or homes for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Military hospitals or wards for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Other hospitals or wards for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals or wards for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Mental (Psychiatric) hospitals or wards (%)
People in Group quarters - Schools, hospitals, or wards for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Schools, hospitals, or wards for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutions for the deaf (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutions for the blind (%)
People in Group quarters - Orthopedic wards and institutions for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in general hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in military hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Juvenile institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Long-term care (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for abused, dependent, and neglected children (%)
People in Group quarters - Residential treatment centers for emotionally disturbed children (%)
People in Group quarters - Training schools for juvenile delinquents (%)
People in Group quarters - Short-term care, detention or diagnostic centers for delinquent children (%)
People in Group quarters - Type of juvenile institution unknown (%)
People in Group quarters - Noninstitutionalized population (%)
People in Group quarters - College dormitories (includes college quarters off campus) (%)
People in Group quarters - Military quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - On base (%)
People in Group quarters - Barracks, unaccompanied personnel housing (UPH), (Enlisted/Officer), ;and similar group living quarters for military personnel (%)
People in Group quarters - Transient quarters for temporary residents (%)
People in Group quarters - Military ships (%)
People in Group quarters - Group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes or halfway houses for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Other group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Religious group quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - Dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Agriculture workers' dormitories on farms (%)
People in Group quarters - Job Corps and vocational training facilities (%)
People in Group quarters - Other workers' dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Crews of maritime vessels (%)
People in Group quarters - Other nonhousehold living situations (%)
People in Group quarters - Other noninstitutional group quarters (%)
Residents speaking English at home (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)