Is Dallas a better place to live than Austin? (Fort Worth: amusement park, cheap house)

[DWong]

Originally Posted by grindin

You must fall asleep somewhere between Oceanside and San Clemente. If it weren't for Camp Pendleton, it would be all urbanized between SD and LA. North SD County has little to do, if anything with South OC. Are there people who commute between the two? Sure there are, but for the most part, they function as entirely separate entities. This is coming from someone who lived in SD for 13 years BTW.

Don't forget Irvine, Lake Forest, Mission Viejo, etc. Very inland and I seriously doubt that area is "blue".

Having lived in SD for 29 years... I do fall asleep between Oceanside and San Clemente. North SD has plenty to do w/ OC and alot w/ south Riverside County. Working in NOrth SD 1/3 of our 800 employees live in Riverside county. And many that work in South OC live in NOrth SD....

Functioning are separate entities- don't all cities and counties etc ?
Anyways w/ the cost of housing varying GREATLY in SD/OC/LA and riverside counties you're going to get alot of transaction between the "separate entities". Unlike in DFW affordable housing is throughout the area in all directions. YOu can live and work in your same area.

[TrueDat]

Long Beach isn't in Orange County. It's LA County.

[grindin]

Originally Posted by DWong

Having lived in SD for 29 years... I do fall asleep between Oceanside and San Clemente. North SD has plenty to do w/ OC and alot w/ south Riverside County. Working in NOrth SD 1/3 of our 800 employees live in Riverside county. And many that work in South OC live in NOrth SD....

Functioning are separate entities- don't all cities and counties etc ?
Anyways w/ the cost of housing varying GREATLY in SD/OC/LA and riverside counties you're going to get alot of transaction between the "separate entities". Unlike in DFW affordable housing is throughout the area in all directions. YOu can live and work in your same area.

Temecula/Murrietta seem to have more of an SD connection than San Clemente or Capistrano. YMMV. They still have LA channels up that way, which I heard was bad during the 2007 fires, because they couldn't get any local news about the fires. I remember back in the early 90s when people started moving to Temecula because of the cheaper housing up that way compared to Rancho Bernardo/Poway/PQ/Scripps Ranch. I always found it interesting that East Chula Vista (Eastlake/Rancho Del Rey/Otay Ranch) developed a bit later than Temecula did.

[DWong]

Originally Posted by TrueDat

Long Beach isn't in Orange County. It's LA County.

Oh ya- sorry bout that Huntingon Beach is the larger city I mixed up.

INteresting enough though, OC county is 3 million people half of DFW.

[DWong]

OK here it is:

Dallas County: DemocratRepublican200857.5% 424,46841.9% 309,477






Colin County:
GOPDEMOthers200862.2% 184,89736.7% 109,0471.2% 3,513





Tarrant

DemocratRepublican200843.8% 274,10155.6% 347,843

Seems Red to me.... those are the main ones... DEnton and the others only make it MUCH more red.

[TrueDat]

I don't think anyone's disputing that Collin and Tarrant, and other surrounding counties, are red. I will say this though, I'm not sure there's another "twin city" metro where there is such a contrast between the two dominant cities. I'm just going to guess that the presidential voting patterns of, say, Seattle/Tacoma, Miami/Ft. Lauderdale, Minneapois/St. Paul, San Francisco/Oakland/Berkeley/San Jose were probably much more similar than those of Dallas and Fort Worth.

[Lakewooder]

Dallas went blue before Obama.

We elected a Democrats including a black mayor back in the 90s, two female Jewish mayors, a black district attorney, a lesbian sheriff, a gay county judge and a gay county clerk. Also nearly elected a gay mayor. There are probably more that I have not mentioned here.

[D-Towner]

Well, Hopefully the more suburban areas of Dallas County will show more Republican leanings in the next election cycle.

[Dallas native]

Originally Posted by D-Towner

Well, Hopefully the more suburban areas of Dallas County will show more Republican leanings in the next election cycle.

Hopefully not!

[DWong]

Originally Posted by Lakewooder

Dallas went blue before Obama.

We elected a Democrats including a black mayor back in the 90s, two female Jewish mayors, a black district attorney, a lesbian sheriff, a gay county judge and a gay county clerk. Also nearly elected a gay mayor. There are probably more that I have not mentioned here.

One of the largest US cities going blue isn't much to note. Especially w/ a large black population its pretty sure to often go that way.

I think if Dallas had a smaller black population it wouldn't be red, but closer to it. Dallas being the only county in the DFW area going blue says alot.. and for the most part... it wasn't even close in the other counties. In fact, Dallas county leaned blue and the rest went very red.