Census: D-FW adds more residents than any other U.S. metro area (Dallas: buy, college)

[Lakewooder]

Just don't call it "North Texas" we do not want to 'go home with the armadillo'.

[JJG]

Originally Posted by aceplace

Fort Worth is a municipal government, not an independent economic unit. Fort Worth municipality could not survive if you cut it out of the map of Tarrant county and dropped it in the middle of Montana, for example.

The only reason there is a separate category for Fort Worth is to appease the egos and chauvinism of those in FW who are hostile to the name "Dallas". Since subdivisions of the metro such as Arlington, Irving, Plano, etc., do not seem to have a similar identity problem, there is no separate category for them.

...wow...

I never thought Fort Worth was the city with the ego problem.....


....I mean really? Fort Worth has egos and chauvinisim? ...really?

[rogramjet]

Originally Posted by aceplace

Fort Worth is a municipal government, not an independent economic unit. Fort Worth municipality could not survive if you cut it out of the map of Tarrant county and dropped it in the middle of Montana, for example.

The only reason there is a separate category for Fort Worth is to appease the egos and chauvinism of those in FW who are hostile to the name "Dallas". Since subdivisions of the metro such as Arlington, Irving, Plano, etc., do not seem to have a similar identity problem, there is no separate category for them.

Hmmm....guilty! I live in Austin, but was born and reared in Fort Worth - the best city in Texas! Don't really care what they say in Washington - definitely don't care about Plano or Irving or Frisco or Garland. For me, anything east of the Tarrant County line might as well be in Mississippi, and there's few hundred thousand folks just like me...

[aceplace]

Originally Posted by rogramjet

Hmmm....guilty! I live in Austin, but was born and reared in Fort Worth - the best city in Texas! Don't really care what they say in Washington - definitely don't care about Plano or Irving or Frisco or Garland. For me, anything east of the Tarrant County line might as well be in Mississippi, and there's few hundred thousand folks just like me...

Nothing at all wrong in feeling proud of your community.

The major metros of the world are not monolithic blocks... they are comprised of individual communities with a unique character and an identity. You should be proud of being a citizen of your community (FW) and proud of being a citizen of the metro (DFW).

[aceplace]

You know, if the metro is called DFW, then Fort Worth should be happy that 2/3 of the name of the metro references their community.

[JJG]

Originally Posted by aceplace

You know, if the metro is called DFW, then Fort Worth should be happy that 2/3 of the name of the metro references their community.

Well you'd have to understand something....

No matrer how much you say the above, and no matter how much you tell people otherwise, MOST of this country will always see Fort Worth as a suburb and just an annexation of Dallas. And to fully understand that it's insulting (to downgrade the city as just a suburb and nothing more), you actually have to LIVE in the city for a long period of time.
I was raised in Ft. Worth since I was 2, and I'm proud of the city.


Being in the shadow of a more known city can be annoying, so yeah, there is some resentment. But like I said, you'd have to live there for a long time to understand.

It's not ego (seriously, where could Fort Worth's ego come from? It's not like we have major sports teams and it's not a PERFECT city). It's just being sick of playing "Luigi".

[eastdallasson]

this is silly, sorry FW dallas has twice the population of our neighbor to the west. i personally think fort worth is great and has a great cultural and historical identity that is VERY different from that of dallas and perhaps more unique. but dallas is the major city in the metroplex. i would never say dallas when i really meant fort worth even to someone from out of state or out of country, but to describe the metroplex, i very well might say dallas, perhaps dfw.

[DWong]

Maybe I'm a bit confused, but how does one consider a city approaching 1 million in population in the coming future a suburb?
Granted the low cost of living and very low crime in comparison - it's almost like the white flight that took place in the 70's and 80's w/ the suburb boom across America. It's interesting to see the racial makeup of Dallas and FW is VERY different too.

I don't know - that would be like people in SF calling San jose a suburb, or LA calling Long Beach a suburb?

I guess when I think suburb, or what the definition might be - I generally tend to think smaller city/community.

Even more so, isn't the new stadium and major airport not even in the city of Dallas? That's weird.

To me that would just more or less reflect that the metro is all one, not Dallas and FW.

[DWong]

Originally Posted by aceplace

According to the FBI website, there is no correlation between a municipality's crime rate and the amount of crime. Different municipalities have dissimilar definitions of crime, different recording practices, and different report rates from victims.

DWong, I caught you in a lie. You did not notice what you claimed to notice, because the subject is metro areas. The FBI does not list crimes by metro.

In fact, the FBI does not calculate crime rates, nor does it publish them on their website.

It would be physically impossible to calculate a crime rate for Dallas municipality, since it is impossible to know how many people are physically present in Dallas at any particular time.

Splitting hairs there buddy - I know there isn't a crime index for metros just municipalities. Not a lie, just incorrectly stating some info which should be clarified that's all.

But there are crime stats out there.... and guess what some cities have more crime than others - ta-da!

[aceplace]

Originally Posted by DWong

Splitting hairs there buddy - I know there isn't a crime index for metros just municipalities. Not a lie, just incorrectly stating some info which should be clarified that's all.

But there are crime stats out there.... and guess what some cities have more crime than others - ta-da!

You cannot calculate a meaningful rate.

In order to calculate a rate, you divide the number of crimes by the number of potential victims. And that's a problem... how many people are physically present in, say, Addison, Texas on a tuesday at 11:30 AM? Actually, you don't know. Most of Addison is office space, filled by commuters from all over metro Dallas, and there is no believable idea of their numbers.

The number of potential victims in Addison is also modified by the long list of restaurants on Belt Line Road. Many people who do not work in Addison will drive there for lunch. Plus, there are tons of shoppers in the shops, almost all of them from outside the city limits.