Dallas VS. Chicago (Howe, Vega: 2009, theater, where to live)

[WDCJoe]

As I stated before the site that I quoted is that of opinion however opinion polls are utilized in the public domain on a daily basis. Again look at political polls. Additionally you failed to address any of the other points I brought to light. My attempt here is not to
vilify Dallas. Most choices that many make in life are subjective and reflect their own values. Some prefer tropical climes while others near arctic, the very reason for the plethora of living environs within this very country. Why else would a person live in Anchorage versus Miami? I and many like me prefer dense walk able urban cores, while others such as yourself and many even within my very own family prefer cities with greater suburban character. Nothing wrong there, just a choice. This very subjective thinking is even reflected in how people view skylines. Some people can give a damn about a cities downtown structures while others thrive on them and even rank them on a daily basis. Finally to address your previous post about dense downtown shopping you are definitely broadly painting the situation.
There are many cities on the southern east coast that boast dense downtown shopping. Savannah Georgia, Charleston South Carolina, and going further west New Orleans are but a few of these examples. Truly dense downtowns as you iterated in your previous posts are a product of older development. Less or the total absence of cars during the time of development dictate this phenomenon. Some cities like the previous three listed have continued to embrace and nurture this development while others such as Birmingham Alabama, or Atlanta Georgia have not. Many of the other cities that you mentioned did not experience tremendous development until after the advent of the vehicle, Phoenix Arizona, LA and the like. How else can you explain the absolute difference between LA and San Fran? Yes some difference is denoted by geography however most of the difference comes from the time of development. During the great earthquake and subsequent fire of 1906 San Fran was the economic heart of the west. LA was a backwater during that time. Again I agree with your earlier post that age denotes compactness however newer and less compact do not denote progressiveness. There is much to celebrate in all of our development choices, however I personally would not want to live in many of them as is the case with you.

[DaveG99]

I think Chicago should put up a pretty good fight since they have Jay Cutler at QB now.

[hsw]

Dallas and Chicago are rather similar regions in many ways...both compete to attract many major corporate HQs; both have crappy weather and boring topography; both are close enough to CA to escape for some civilized weather/topography/fresh produce

If IL's 3% income tax rate moves to 4.5%, will be at a severe disadvantage vs Dallas, as housing costs/COL are otherwise similar

Most of valuable companies are based in suburbs (Exxon in Irving or McD's in OakBrook and Abbott up in NorthShore)

Each has a few key financiers...a few hedge funds/family offices in Dall (or rather in FtWorth) or Chic's Citadel and Goldman but neither region is a powerful financial epicenter

And anyone who makes any money in either region prefers to drive self around town (in Chic, even 19yo first-yr investment bankers drive self ~15 blks in a new Mercedes from MagMile apt towers to office garages in Loop)....the mass transit nonsense is a laughable excuse to raise taxes on "rich" to pay for more $100K+/yr gvt "workers" who can never be fired no matter how inept

Most prefer safety, comfort, convenience, privacy of own private automobile, even for a 2 block drive, to avoid smelly homeless and poss violent criminals...and other non-violent, hygiene-challenged mass transit commuters

[WDCJoe]

I'm sorry, but Dallas does not have the CBOT nor Mercantile exchange. Both are arguably extremely important to the facilitation of capital movement both domestically and internationally.

[DaveG99]

I hate these (certain city) vs (certain city) threads. Arguing abotu what city is better is pretty stupid unless your talking sports.

[Alicia Bradley]

Dallas doesn't have the Lake Michigan shoreline, either. Boring? I think not!

[aceplace]

The only opinion that counts is the one measured by the rate of population growth, and even the absolute numbers of population growth. There are far more people who move to Dallas and stay there, than the number of people who move to Chicago and stay there.

As LANative pointed out, people like living in Dallas more than they like living in Chicago.

I'm working on a somewhat scientific opinion as to how the Chicago weather renders them into maniacal fanatics on the subject of their city.

[LAnative10]

Originally Posted by aceplace

The only opinion that counts is the one measured by the rate of population growth, and even the absolute numbers of population growth. There are far more people who move to Dallas and stay there, than the number of people who move to Chicago and stay there.

As LANative pointed out, people like living in Dallas more than they like living in Chicago.

I'm working on a somewhat scientific opinion as to how the Chicago weather renders them into maniacal fanatics on the subject of their city.

Well to be fair, I said that I liked living in Dallas more than Chicago. However others might feel differently.

[DaveG99]

Chevy vs. Ford

Coke vs. Pepsi

[mboyle1988]

Originally Posted by LQQKOUT

I still think we pay HIGH property taxes, I don't read into the media or the average for home sales because all that right now is a blur. Bottom line you pay high taxes.

I posted the link in another thread and I'm too lazy to look it up now, but, while Texas is top ten in terms of percentage property tax (how much you pay per assessed dollar of your property), it is middle of the road in terms of percent of income, because property is pretty cheap overall, and incomes are comparatively high. Also, the tax burden in Texas is 43rd lowest in the country. The only state with a major metropolitan area with a lower tax burden is Florida, at 47.