Progressive Texas?

[WillysB]

Houston to us seemed the opposite, a real man's man city. Way more macho and rugged, whereas Dallas seemed way more refined.

That's probly historically significant. Houston's 20th century growth was promoted largely by oil and gas and port city. Tough businesses although medical and space have joined that image. While at the same time, Dallas has been considered a banking city, with a Federal Reserve branch in town. And a big airport. Both image industries.

[theloneranger]

Originally Posted by artsyguy

That is exactly how I saw things. People are so mislead about Austin being the most liberal city in Texas. It's still very socially traditional despite what Austinites want to argue. They obviously have never traveled.

Regardless of what you claim actual physical numbers, both polling and actual election results, continue to prove you wrong.

[brubaker]

Originally Posted by Dukester

I know that Texas in itself is considered very conservative right? Does Texas also include pockets of Liberal Metro Areas. I guess it would be best to ask what areas in Texas are considered liberal?

Thanks...

As I'm sure you know, most metro areas across America are liberal.

Even in Alabama, Tennessee, Utah etc, the big metros vote Dem almost unanimously.
http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/results/president/
Click on a state to see county results.

The only one that I can think of (in 2008) was Boise.
Thats it.

Having said that ...it's still Texas not Oregon or Washington State or New York... and most metros are surrounded on all sides by CONSERVATIVE STRONGHOLDS especially Austin with the panhandle to the north...which makes living here an interesting mix of tensions.

Also, the border area is very liberal ( financially NOT SOCIALLY).

[Lakewooder]

Originally Posted by yourpalincal

Having lived in Dallas in the 60's, I have learned from what I've heard that Austin is the place to be. Big University there. The other might be Houston, but Dallas has changed, but I can no longer live there. Too hot!

How has Dallas changed - what do you mean?

Austin is in the middle of a huge drought while Dallas has been getting a lot of rain - it's 76 degrees here on July 27th.

[LAnative10]

Originally Posted by brubaker

As I'm sure you know, most metro areas across America are liberal.
Even in Alabama, Tennessee, Utah etc, the metros vote Dem.
Wind Powering America: State and United States Wind Resource Maps

The only ones that spring to my mind that aren't, or didn't in 2008, are Boise and um...Boise and urm....thats it.


Having said that ...it's still Texas not Oregon or Washington State or New York...the metros are surrounded on all sides by CONSERVATIVE STRONGHOLDS (esp Austin with the panhandle to the north).

The border area is very liberal, financially NOT SOCIALLY, as well.

While thats true, back in Los Angeles that was also the case. Orange, Riverside, San Bernadino, and San Diego counties are all traditionally conservative by voting record anyway. And I would say that San Bernadino, Riverside, and alot of Orange County is relatively socially conservative. Only Orange County went for McCain in the 2008 election, but in 2004, all the counties I listed went for Bush.

I think most places in the US, large cities are more liberal, while suburbs are pretty conservative.

[The Foot]

Conservative values in Texas = hospitality and great employment rates.

[brubaker]

Conservative values in Texas = hospitality *jobs* and zero corporate accountability.

[Topaz]

Originally Posted by momof2dfw

So sad the stereotypes out there. Sure we might not be able to be totally pigeonholed like some areas like say............. the Northwest. Where everyone and their dog wears Birkenstocks, drives a Pirus WHEN they do drive otherwise they ride bikes, drinks Starbucks from an IV and they all work for Microsoft.

I lived in Seattle for 10 years and that isn't far from the reality!

[Texsez]

Yes, there are many evil democrats here.

[The Foot]

Originally Posted by brubaker

Conservative values in Texas = hospitality *jobs* and zero corporate accountability.

Yeah, and people from california and new york are pouring into texas...i guess they can overlooke all the 'lack of corp. accountability' when they are able to get a job...geez it's not that hard to understand.