Non-hoa (Plano, McKinney, Allen: HOA fees, new home, neighborhoods)

[ChristieP]

Originally Posted by HealthInfoTech

Thank you!

May I ask what school district is the Parr Park area and how good is that district?

All of Grapevine is in the Grapevine-Colleyville ISD, which is very well-regarded. Check ratings online and you will see! You'd have to look at each individual house to see which elementary school they are zoned for, but that area is in Heritage Middle School and Colleyville Heritage High School.

[BigDGeek]

Originally Posted by HealthInfoTech

Hello! Looking for clean neighborhoods and communities in the DFW area (price range under $300K, and age of home is 15 yrs or less) that are not associated with HOA.

Anyone have any suggestions or ideas . . .

Good luck with that. You are going to need it!

The vast majority of new builds in DFW will be under the thumb of an HOA.

Why only 15 years old? I close on a 52 year old house tomorrow in an HOA-less neighborhood in Richardson and I am tickled pink. New houses, especially in that price range, are often shoddy and badly built.

[HealthInfoTech]

Originally Posted by BigDGeek

Good luck with that. You are going to need it!

The vast majority of new builds in DFW will be under the thumb of an HOA.

Why only 15 years old? I close on a 52 year old house tomorrow in an HOA-less neighborhood in Richardson and I am tickled pink. New houses, especially in that price range, are often shoddy and badly built.

Why? It's what I like. 52 is a bit old for me (to each his/her own, though), but congrats on your closing on the house that you like!

I think I'd go as far back as 20, maybe 25-30 yr old house. But 52? Nothing wrong with that, but it's just not for me. It's just a personal preference (we ALL have them, don't we??). Thanks again!

[nsumner]

These are all neighborhood with homes below 300K that have either a voluntary HOA or no HOA in place at all built in 1990 or after.

Southern cities

Cedar Hill
Waterford Oaks
Greenbriar Estates
Sherwood Forest

Desoto
Windmill
Churchill Estates
Oakmont
Brighton Estates
Shamrock Gardens
Chapel Hill

Duncanville
Cambridge Estates
Winona Gardens
Greenstone Estates
Greenbriar Estates

East Dallas suburb

Mesquite
Indian Trails
Creek Crossing Estates

North Dallas suburbs

Carrollton
Wellington Run
Josey Ranch
Savoy
Stone Creek Estates
Meadowbrook
Indian Springs

Richardson
Richland Meadows

North Dallas
Bent Tree Hills
Midway Meadows
Meadow Glen

Plano/Frisco
Plantation Resort
Wynnwood Haven
Hillcrest Estates
Preston Meadow
Heather Glen Estates
Carriage Hill[
Chase Oaks
Creekside Estates
Whiffletree
Estates at Russel Creek
Villages at Russel Creek
Hunters Glen
Hunters Landing
Hunters Creek
Stonehaven Place
Highland Ridge


Closer to DFW airport


Hurst/Euless/Bedford aka HEB
Woodbridge Estates
Covington Hill
Rustic Woods
Quail Crest
Willow Creek


Grapevine
Saybrook
Timberline
Winding Creek Estates


Lewisville/Flower Mound
Fox Creek Estates
Lake Forest
Churchill Crossing


Naima

[5stones]

we looked at a house in Grapevine that backed up to Parr Park. GREAT neighborhood, nice trees etc..
But most of the houses in our range max 325k all needed ALOT of work (interior) Also the yards were a bit on the small side.
Very good schools etc...

you probably wont find anything in Colleyville in your price but I'd search it out, they have larger lots and same good school district as Grapevine.

How big of a house are you looking for? because 300k for a 3-4bedroom 2 car at under 3000sqft would give you a much larger housing pool...esp in the Grapevine aarea. If you want 4bed+ 3 car and + 3000sqft then you might have a harder time.

Good luck.

[loves2read]

will PM you a great web site for house searching

that part of Grapevine is in Grapevine Colleyville ISD and has very good schools
very safe, desireable area
but I too think you might have difficult time getting someplace w/o an HOA--voluntary one is probably your best choice

AND there is small section of Grapevine that is actually in Southlake Carroll ISD--my son dated a girl who lived there and graduated from Carroll...

[HealthInfoTech]

Originally Posted by nsumner

These are all neighborhood with homes below 300K that have either a voluntary HOA or no HOA in place at all built in 1990 or after.

Southern cities

Cedar Hill
Waterford Oaks
Greenbriar Estates
Sherwood Forest

Desoto
Windmill
Churchill Estates
Oakmont
Brighton Estates
Shamrock Gardens
Chapel Hill

Duncanville
Cambridge Estates
Winona Gardens
Greenstone Estates
Greenbriar Estates

East Dallas suburb

Mesquite
Indian Trails
Creek Crossing Estates

North Dallas suburbs

Carrollton
Wellington Run
Josey Ranch
Savoy
Stone Creek Estates
Meadowbrook
Indian Springs

Richardson
Richland Meadows

North Dallas
Bent Tree Hills
Midway Meadows
Meadow Glen

Plano/Frisco
Plantation Resort
Wynnwood Haven
Hillcrest Estates
Preston Meadow
Heather Glen Estates
Carriage Hill[
Chase Oaks
Creekside Estates
Whiffletree
Estates at Russel Creek
Villages at Russel Creek
Hunters Glen
Hunters Landing
Hunters Creek
Stonehaven Place
Highland Ridge


Closer to DFW airport


Hurst/Euless/Bedford aka HEB
Woodbridge Estates
Covington Hill
Rustic Woods
Quail Crest
Willow Creek


Grapevine
Saybrook
Timberline
Winding Creek Estates


Lewisville/Flower Mound
Fox Creek Estates
Lake Forest
Churchill Crossing


Naima

This is REALLY GREAT!!! Thank u SOOOOOOOOO much.

[BigDGeek]

Originally Posted by HealthInfoTech

Why? It's what I like. 52 is a bit old for me (to each his/her own, though), but congrats on your closing on the house that you like!

I think I'd go as far back as 20, maybe 25-30 yr old house. But 52? Nothing wrong with that, but it's just not for me. It's just a personal preference (we ALL have them, don't we??). Thanks again!

Yep we do. If it has to do with architectural styles then I can sort of understand that but if it is just the age of the house that is an issue, I would steer clear of houses built in the 1960s and 1970s as they are likely to have aluminum wires and old slab foundations that may need very expensive repairs despite being newer than my house. My house, built in the 1950s, has copper wiring and a pier and beam foundation and according to my inspector (and a couple of handymen who have come around) is in better shape than many 5-10 year old houses they have seen in the suburbs. I also would not buy a house built in the 1980s as I do not care for most of those styles. I would buy a much older house like a Craftsman or a four-square if it was in good condition and had modern wiring and plumbing. I would not want to deal with knob and tube wiring or plumbing with a ton of lead solder. But if all of that had been replaced, no problem!

My house is in excellent condition and the inspector found no major problems with it. The AC compressor and furnace are both new and the biggest issue outside of that was the hot water heater has to be raised to be 18 inches off the floor in the garage and has a flue pipe coated with asbestos. Both the hot water heater and the flue pipe will be replaced before I move in. I am also replacing the electrical service panel even though the inspector says its age and configuration is not a safety issue. I am having it done because the old one is only 125 amps and has some double-tapped breakers and I want a 200 amp one. Oh, and the windows need to be re-caulked and the gutters need to be cleaned. I expect my electric bills may be a little high until I blow some more insulation into the attic, and the rooms all have white walls which is kind of boring. Everyone who has seen the house adores it. What I "lose" in buying an older house, I gain back tenfold in the quality of its construction, the maturity of the neighborhood, the beauty of my fully-treed lot with mature, 40+ foot high oak, pecan, and live oak trees, and the charm of a 1950s house that has not changed much since it was built, and the lack of an HOA making my rules for me. I am a considerate neighbor but I am also a fully grown adult and I resent being told what color I may paint my trim or where I may park my car, hang my laundry, what color curtains I may have, etc. Plus any house of any age has ongoing maintenance needs and this house is no different. It has been maintained extremely well. Not every 50 year old house is a money pit.

I will take that any day over a mass-built flim flam Chinese-drywalled, illegal alien-built square footage factory on a concrete slab that bakes in the hot sun due to the lack of trees in a neighborhood that will dictate to me what color I may paint my front door.

That is personal preference though and that does not mean life in Frisco, Allen, or McKinney is terrible. It would be terrible for me, but not terrible for everyone. Some people like the samey orderliness of places like that. But that samey orderliness comes at a price, and that price is usually an overbearing interfering HOA plus horrible lengthy commutes.

[$DFW8$]

Originally Posted by HealthInfoTech

Why? It's what I like. 52 is a bit old for me (to each his/her own, though), but congrats on your closing on the house that you like!

I think I'd go as far back as 20, maybe 25-30 yr old house. But 52? Nothing wrong with that, but it's just not for me. It's just a personal preference (we ALL have them, don't we??). Thanks again!

Ya I agree....that is WAY too old for me. The age and the styles are definitely not my cup of tea.

[BigDGeek]

Originally Posted by $DFW8$

Ya I agree....that is WAY too old for me. Definitely not my cup of tea.

Newer is not always better. I was primarily concerned with the overall quality of the house's construction and its current condition rather than its age. As I have said many times before it is possible to find a 50+ year old house in better shape than a 5-10 year old house. It all depends on how well the houses were built and how well they have been maintained.

I think it is short-sighted to automatically reject a house built in the 1950s solely due to its age. I can understand rejecting 1960s-1970s houses due to their wiring and foundation issues but well-maintained 1950s houses are usually fine. I know a few people who own 1950s homes and none of them have had any serious problems with them. Not like other people I know who have already had to spend five figures fixing their slab foundations in Plano, Frisco, Allen, etc. Or the guy in McKinney who had to tear out half of his drywall because of the cruddy construction quality of his 10 year old house (think leaks and mold). I also know a couple whose house is over 80 years old and they have had no issues with it whatsoever and have lived there for years.