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Old 08-09-2009, 05:40 PM
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Default Percent of kids who averaged a B or higher in their 1st year of college and the high school they attended

The Dallas Morning News has an article in today's paper that looked at data detailing how well 2007 high school graduates did in their first year of college. It only has data for students who attended Texas colleges and universities. Below is the percent of students who averaged a B or higher after their freshman year of a Texas college and the high school they attended.

Percent with B or higher/High school/school district

62% Highland Park - Highland Park ISD
59% Denton - Denton ISD
58% Sanger - Sanger ISD

57% Plano East - Plano ISD
57% Colleyville-Heritage - Grapevine Colleyville ISD
56% Carroll - Carroll ISD

55% Creekview - Carrollton-Farmers Branch ISD
55% JJ Pearce - Richardson ISD
55% Lake Highlands - Richardson ISD
55% Plano Sr. - Plano ISD
55% Naaman Forest - Garland ISD

54% Coppell - Coppell ISD
54% Flower Mound - Lewisville ISD
53% North Hills - charter
52% Marcus - Lewisville ISD
52% Argyle - Argyle ISD

51% Allen - Allen ISD
50% Grapevine - Grapevine-Colleyville ISD
50% Garland - Garland ISD
50% North Garland - Garland ISD

49% Centennial - Frisco ISD
49% Plano West - Plano ISD
48% Hillcrest - Dallas ISD
48% Little Elm - Little Elm ISD

47% Martin - Arlington ISD
47% Wylie - Wylie ISD
46% McKinney - McKinney ISD

45% Frisco - Frisco ISD
45% Trinity - HEB ISD
45% Poteet - Mesquite ISD
45% Summit - Mansfield ISD
45% Keller - Keller ISD

44% Berkner - Richardson ISD
44% Hebron - Lewisville ISD

43% McKinney North - McKinney ISD
43% The Colony - Lewisville ISD
43% Lamar - Arlington ISD
43% Rockwall - Rockwall ISD

42% Arlington - Arlington ISD
42% Turner - Carrollton-Farmers Branch
42% Central - Keller ISD
42% Fossill Ridge - Keller ISD
42% Mansfield - Mansfield ISD

41% South Grand Prairie - Grand Prairie ISD
41% Ryan - Denton ISD
41% Horn - Mesquite ISD

40% Lewisville - Lewisville ISD
40% Booker T. Washington School for Performing & Visual Arts - Dallas ISD
40% The Academy - Irving ISD

38% Prosper - Prosper ISD
37% Smith - Carrollton-Farmers Branch ISD
36% Education Social Services Magnet - Dallas ISD

35% Richardson - Richardson ISD
35% Nimitz - Irving ISD
34% Guyer - Denton ISD

33% Rowlett - Garland ISD
33% Lake Dallas - Lake Dallas ISD
33% Duncanville - Duncanville ISD
33% Macarthur - Irving ISD

32% Govt Law Magnet - Dallas ISD
32% Bell - HEB ISD
32% North Mesquite - Mesquite ISD

31% Woodrow - Dallas ISD
31% Bowie - Arlington ISD
31% Irving - Irving ISD
31% Royse City - Royse City ISD

30% Anna - Anna ISD
30% Blue Ridge - Blue Ridge ISD

29% Sachse - Garland ISD
29% Timberview - Mansfield ISD

28% Health Magnet - Dallas ISD
28% Mesquite - Mesquite ISD
27% West Mesquite - Mesquite ISD

26% Business Magnet - Dallas ISD
25% Science Engineering Magnet - Dallas ISD
25% Sam Houston - Arlington ISD
25% Talented & Gifted - Dallas ISD

24% Grand Prairie - Grand Prairie ISD
23% Cedar Hill - Cedar Hill ISD
22% Skyline - Dallas ISD

21% Seguin - Arlington ISD
21% DeSoto - DeSoto ISD
20% South Garland - Garland ISD
20% Sunset - Dallas ISD

19% Bryan Adams - Dallas ISD
19% South Oak Cliff - Dallas ISD
18% Carter - Dallas ISD
17% Molina - Dallas ISD
17% Seagoville - Dallas ISD

16% WT White - Dallas ISD
14% Ranchview - Carrollton-Farmers Branch ISD
14% Lincoln - Dallas ISD
12% Lakeview Cent. - Garland ISD

10% North Dallas - Dallas ISD
10% Celina - Celina ISD
10% Madison - Dallas ISD
10% Kimball - Dallas ISD

8% Adamson - Dallas ISD
6% Maceo Smith - Dallas ISD
6% Spruce - Dallas ISD
3% Lancaster - Lancaster ISD

0% Roosevelt - Dallas ISD
0% Thomas Jefferson - Dallas ISD

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since there is no list of the colleges students were attending, the number of credit hours, or the courses they were taking--
I would take this with a grain of salt to some extent

there are some schools here who traditionally have graduated students who are the first in their families to attend college--frankly any of those kids who make it through the first year get my applause...

frankly the idea that the Science/Engineering Magnet at DISD have 25% of students earning B or higher says to me that the magnet school is not preparing those kids for the types of colleges most of them want to attend...

statistics w/o context are just like alphabet soup though--
what was the GPA for these students in high school--maybe high school grading really is inflated
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Here's the opposite - the percent of kids who ended up with a D or F average after their first year at a Texas college or university:

percent with D or F average/school/district

9% North Hills - charter
9% Lake Dallas - Lake Dallas ISD

10% Central - Keller ISD
10% Coppell - Coppell ISD
10% Blue Ridge - Blue Ridge ISD
10% Carroll - Carroll ISD
11% Highland Park - Highland Park ISD

12% JJ Pearce - Richardson ISD
12% Flower Mound - Lewisville ISD
12% Prosper - Prosper ISD
12% Hebron - Lewisville ISD

12% Grapevine - Grapevine-Colleyville ISD
12% Allen - Allen ISD
12% Argyle - Argyle ISD
12% Wylie - Wylie ISD

13% Plano West - Plano ISD
13% Creekview - Carrollton-Farmers Branch ISD
13% Nimitz - Irving ISD

14% Plano Sr. - Plano ISD
14% McKinney - McKinney ISD
14% Centennial - Frisco ISD
14% Martin - Arlington ISD
14% Guyer - Denton ISD

15% Trinity - HEB ISD
15% Poteet - Mesquite ISD

16% Garland - Garland ISD
16% North Garland - Garland ISD
16% Colleyville Heritage - Grapevine-Colleyville
16% Govt Law Magnet - Dallas ISD
16% Keller - Keller ISD

17% Naaman Forest - Garland ISD
17% Fossil Ridge - Keller ISD
17% Plano East - Plano ISD
17% Marcus - Lewisville ISD

17% Hillcrest - Dallas ISD
17% Lamar - Arlington ISD
17% Mansfield - Mansfield ISD

18% Lake Highlands - Richardson ISD
18% North Mesquite - Mequite ISD

19% The Colony - Lewisville ISD
19% Arlington - Arlington ISD

20% Booker T. Washington School for Performing & Visual Arts - Dallas ISD
20% McKinney North - McKinney ISD
20% Anna - Anna ISD
20% Horn - Mesquite ISD

21% Mesquite - Mesquite ISD
21% Rockwall - Rockwall ISD
21% Royse City - Royse City ISD
21% Sanger - Sanger ISD
21% Berkner - Richardson ISD

21% Smith - Carrollton-Farmers Branch ISD
21% Turner - Carrollton-Farmers Branch ISD
21% South Grand Prairie - Grand Prairie ISD
21% Education/Social Services - Dallas ISD
21% Denton - Denton ISD
21% Summit - Mansfield ISD

22% Frisco - Frisco ISD
22% Grand Prairie - Grand Prairie ISD
22% Science Engineering Magnet - Dallas ISD

23% Sachse - Garland ISD
23% Macarthur - Irving ISD
23% Bowie - Arlington ISD
23% Ryan - Denton ISD

24% Bell - HEB ISD
25% Ranchview - Carrollton-Farmers Branch ISD
26% Richardson - Richardson ISD
26% Lewisville - Lewisville ISD
26% Duncanville - Duncanville ISD

27% Cedar Hill - Cedar Hill ISD
28% Woodrow - Dallas ISD
28% Rowlett - Garland ISD
29% Sam Houston - Arlington ISD

30% Health Magnet - Dallas ISD
30% Bryan Adams - Dallas ISD
30% Timberview - Mansfield ISD
31% Little Elm - Little Elm ISD

32% DeSoto - DeSoto ISD
32% Business Magnet - Dallas ISD

33% South Garland - Garland ISD
33% Sunset - Dallas ISD
33% Academy - Irving ISD
33% West Mesquite - Mesquite ISD

39% White - Dallas ISD
39% Skyline - Dallas ISD

40% Celina - Celina ISD
41% Seguin - Arlington ISD
41% Maceo Smith - Dallas ISD
42% Talent & Gifted Magnet - Dallas ISD (Somebody email Newsweek!!!)

43% Molina - Dallas ISD
43% South Oak Cliff - Dallas ISD

45% Thomas Jefferson - Dallas ISD
47% Roosevelt - Dallas ISD

48% Lakeview Cent. - Garland ISD
48% Madison - Dallas ISD
48% Lancaster - Lancaster ISD

50% Lincoln - Dallas ISD
50% Seagoville - Dallas ISD

52% North Dallas - Dallas ISD
52% Carter - Dallas ISD
52% Kimball - Dallas ISD

62% Adamson - Dallas ISD
69% Spruce - Dallas ISD
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JMO, but I think there are way too many variables involved to make sense of these numbers just as they are. Take TAG, for instance (LOL about the Newsweek comment!). Tiny class of kids, all used to be the brightest, off to their first year of college with loads of other bright kids. And what colleges are they attending? The valedictorian this year will be attending MIT, I believe. Are we really going to compare a C or D average for the first year at MIT to the same average at community college?
How do these kids do once they've really settled in? Are some of them hitting too many parties? And once again we have the socioeconomic factors to consider. Take the last 14 schools from the list, could it be that those students attending college are also working full time?
Way too many things to look at, in my opinion. Would love to see the statistics continued, however, into their second year. Could be interesting. How many continued school? Did they pull up their grades?
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since there is no list of the colleges students were attending, the number of credit hours, or the courses they were taking--
I would take this with a grain of salt to some extent

there are some schools here who traditionally have graduated students who are the first in their families to attend college--frankly any of those kids who make it through the first year get my applause...

frankly the idea that the Science/Engineering Magnet at DISD have 25% of students earning B or higher says to me that the magnet school is not preparing those kids for the types of colleges most of them want to attend...

statistics w/o context are just like alphabet soup though--
what was the GPA for these students in high school--maybe high school grading really is inflated
I don't know how I originally missed your excellent post, Loves2read.
Yes, there's no context to these statistics. We can make some guesses about them, I suppose, but that's about it.
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Since it only includes kids who attended Texas colleges and universities, all those Harvard, MIT kids and those kids who went to the main campus of The University of Some State because they couldn't get into University of Texas at Austin are not included in these stats.

There are some more stats included in this study including school poverty level, graduation rate, number of graduates, number of graduates attending college in Texas and then of those kids that I listed above - percent who ended their freshman year with an average below a C and percent who ended up with a B or better.

For instance - Dallas' Talented and Gifted Magnet in Dallas ISD:

School poverty level - medium (20-50% low income)
Total high school graduates - 43
Graduation Rate - 100%
Number of grads in Texas Universities - 12
Grads in Texas public universities - 28%
Percent with less than C average - 42%
Percent with B average or higher - 25%
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Since it only includes kids who attended Texas colleges and universities, all those Harvard, MIT kids and those kids who went to the main campus of The University of Some State because they couldn't get into University of Texas at Austin are not included in these stats.

There are some more stats included in this study including school poverty level, graduation rate, number of graduates, number of graduates attending college in Texas and then of those kids that I listed above - percent who ended their freshman year with an average below a C and percent who ended up with a B or better.

For instance - Dallas' Talented and Gifted Magnet in Dallas ISD:

School poverty level - medium (20-50% low income)
Total high school graduates - 43
Graduation Rate - 100%
Number of grads in Texas Universities - 12
Grads in Texas public universities - 28%
Percent with less than C average - 42%
Percent with B average or higher - 25%
OK, so we have much more info here. Only 12 out of a class of 43 attend Texas public universities. That's interesting in itself. I wonder how those kids ranked in their HS graduating class.
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I wonder if the kids coming from the high D/F rate schools are headed to places like UT or A&M via the top 10% rule? Maybe we need to examine whether or not those kids need to go to a lower school that they are more prepared for and potentially transfer up if they can truly hack it.
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I know for a fact that more than 12 TAG graduates in 2008 attended in-state public schools last year--as I went to middle school with most of them.

TAG's top kids often end up in honors programs at UT.
Many of TAG's middling to bottom kids, who would be dominating in the rest of DISD, end up at UTD because UTD showers scholarship money on them.
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Caligula, kids getting in to UT on the top ten rule have a higher average GPA than those not getting in on the top ten rule (who tend to be from large suburban high schools).

Kids who work hard in high school tend to work hard in college too.
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